In America left of centre means liberal in morals but it is not so in Britain [they are all immoral] so I am very annoyed at being thought liberal
Yes. Your lack of effort is apparent. Post after post. lain:
Yes, I do.
Yep, I just respond to what you post, and there isn't anything hard about it. No thinking required at all.
Still not angry with you. But if it will make you happier (or happy...or less hostile...or not). :IA:A brief comment and a chuckle is all it takes to get your goat. :chuckle:
It really shows. "A"It amuses me.
You do agree that a believing wife should not be charged with adultery when she has sex with a man that is not her husband, don't you?So then, you believe a husband is wrong to charge his believing wife with adultery when she has sex with another man.
So by extension, you believe Doser was wrong to charge his believing wife with adultery.
Easy peasy to clear that up.
You can stop trying to put words in my mouth any day now.
How did you determine that?A 'bigot' is amost always the person shouting it in current society.
I think he mostly makes it up and forgets it as he goes along.How did you determine that?
Or is that just yet another of your unfounded conspiracies?
You do agree that a believing wife should not be charged with adultery when she has sex with a man that is not her husband, don't you?
Either it is wrong for a husband to charge his believing wife with adultery, or it isn't.
How about lying?
It is OK to charge a believer of being a liar?
Still not angry with you. But if it will make you happier (or happy...or less hostile...or not). :IA:
It really shows. "A"
How did you determine that?
Or is that just yet another of your unfounded conspiracies?
The fact that they think they CAN quit shows that they don't realize they are alcoholic. They still think they are "in control" of it.I've lived with alcoholics for years. How many times do they swear they're going to quit? They wouldn't do that if they had any doubt about their problem. They absolutely know they are alcoholics. A person can lie to themselves on the outside, but deep down they KNOW.
That doesn't even make sense. If they they think they're right, they think they're right. They can't think they're right and be aware that they're wrong at the same time.It's not like people are unaware that their thinking is "wrong", they just don't agree with you that it's wrong.
How would you know if you were deceiving yourself? Like I said, people do it all the time, and you are 'people'. So what makes you think you aren't doing it, too? Thinking that you are not deceiving yourself could very easily be something you believe because you ignore all evidence to the contrary. Just like everyone else, does when they deceive themselves.Yes, I do always know my own motives. I know when I'm doing something for selfish reasons, for instance, and then must make a decision whether to allow myself that or not. It isn't like I'm fooling myself.
I would love to know what you call yourself when you do that.Do you know what a person is who jumps straight to accusations and derogatory names simply because another has a different viewpoint than them?
Hello bigot!A bigot. Y'all.
Hello bigot, even though "bigot" doesn't even do that enough justice.Doing all that shouting and self-righteous, PC nonsense.. get real. 'Bigot' doesn't even do that enough justice. I've been sitting here watching you all scramble over every post trying to label people what you will, finding fault, digging up bones, not allowing anything contrary to be properly discussed.. it all has to fit into you few's ideology or, in yall's own opinion, shouldn't even be on the site. You all try to get people banned and slander others daily.
Slinging insults instead of giving an explanation of what YOU just threw up in the air, and expected no one to challenge you on YOUR own words.You all are the 'bigots'. You've been railing on CS for like a week now- you thrive on it. Don't sit there and try to act like it isn't the truth, it was evident shortly after I joined the site.
So you can just go on with all that, talking about 'conspiracy theory'. You all are the prime examples! :wave:
Amen Sister!I would love to know what you call yourself when you do that.
Hello bigot!
Hello bigot, even though "bigot" doesn't even do that enough justice.
Slinging insults instead of giving an explanation of what YOU just threw up in the air, and expected no one to challenge you on YOUR own words.
So funny how someone on your side of the issue can go on railing about Town, Rusha, and Anna FOR YEARS, and you don't seem to care as long as they are on your side.
Your hypocrisy knows no bounds.
So, adultery is no longer a sin if you are a believer?Charge with sin and believer do not belong in the same sentence.
.... who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.You act like you've never heard this concept before. There is NO CONDEMNATION for those who are IN Christ Jesus.
There is nothing foolish about asking if it is adultery for a wife to have sex with another man.You can ask me these same foolish questions over and over again, and I'll keep telling you the same thing.
So, a husband that charges his believing wife with adultery is putting her under the law, huh?Why is it you keep trying to get me to put any believer under the law?
I still believe adultery is adultery.Have you slid into unbelief?
Adultery, GD.It isn't wrong for a husband to tell his wife she's done something wrong. Nor is it wrong for a wife to tell him when he does something wrong.
He certainly did.Don't you believe the Lord took care of the SIN problem on the cross? I thought you did. :think:
Lying is a sin.Okay with who? If a person is lying, say so.
Then why do you do it?Charging a believer with a sin is outside your pay grade ....as it is mine.
Putting a name to someone that sins is not gossip, it's truth.I feel I can talk about the actions of hypothetical people and hypothetical cases. Put a name on them and I become a gossip.
And yet, you continue to charge believers with lying (a sin).Members of the body of Christ cannot be charged with sin. Period. God doesn't do it and neither will I.
And the non-priestly class also.Sin has been a good livelihood for the priestly class for many millennium.
And the non-priestly class also.
But make sure GD doesn't charge them with any sin.
And make sure she doesn't mention any names, cause that would be gossip.
I think that's because at one time, the church acted as the government. So you're seeing the difference between the laws and determinations that are necessary to govern our behavior relative to society, and the spiritual "sinfulness" that determine our relationship with the divine.I find it extremely useful and helpful, in reading through this thread, that the Church's Magisterium distinguishes between objective moral offenses like adultery, and the imputation of the guilt of that offense to the offender.
They teach that we can and should judge moral offenses, since they are objectively observable. But they also teach that nobody can determine how guilty the offender is of their offense, because that is judging their soul, which is beyond our ability to do.