Denmark: “In One Generation

[drbrumley]

Our Country Has Changed.”

In his recent New Year's speech, Danish Prime Minister Lars Løkke Rasmussen mentioned that Muslim parallel societies constitute a problem and that immigrants must learn to put secular values over religious ones. He just did not say how he planned to address all that.

 

[ok doser]

Denmark made international headlines in late November 2018, when the Danish government announced a plan to send certain asylum seekers to the small, uninhabited island of Lindholm. The international outrage was intensified when it came to light that the island currently houses a research center for contagious animal diseases; that the ferry which the asylum seekers will be able to take to the mainland during the day (it does not operate in the evening) is named "Virus"; and that the asylum center will be accompanied by a constant police presence on the island.

The group of asylum seekers meant to live in Lindholm consists of criminals of various sorts, including those who have been sentenced to be deported from Denmark, those who are considered a security threat to Denmark, and so-called "foreign warriors".

The asylum seekers, however, cannot be deported to their country of origin, either because those countries do not adhere to human rights conventions, (which Denmark has signed and by which it is therefore obligated) that prohibit the use of torture, so-called inhumane treatment and the death sentence, or simply because the country of origin refuses to take them back.

The island will undergo a comprehensive renovation, estimated to take nearly three years and to cost Danish taxpayers approximately 759 million Danish kroner (approximately $116 million). Until the renovation is completed, this group of asylum seekers will remain at their current housing facility, an asylum center known as Kærshovedgård, 6 kilometers from the nearest town of Bording. Kærshovedgård, a former prison, was established as an asylum center in 2016.

In the two and a half years since, police have filed 85 charges of violence, threats of violence, vandalism, shoplifting, and drug-related crimes against the inhabitants of the asylum center. The manager of the local supermarket in Bording called the presence of the asylum center "a living hell on earth". The decision to send the criminal inhabitants of the asylum center to the uninhabited island of Lindholm caused great relief in Bording -- an element the international press appears to have missed. Clearly, the right of law-abiding citizens to live in peace does not count for much on the scale of international moral outrage. Now, however, neighbors of Lindholm in the tiny town of Kalvehave on the mainland have voiced their fears regarding the establishment of the asylum center on Lindholm, which they see as merely moving the problem from one area to another. Some inhabitants are talking about putting up cameras, fences, barbed wire and even acquiring gun permits.

 

[ok doser]

The decision to send the criminal inhabitants of the asylum center to the uninhabited island of Lindholm caused great relief in Bording -- an element the international press appears to have missed. Clearly, the right of law-abiding citizens to live in peace does not count for much on the scale of international moral outrage.

Significantly, the outraged international press did not offer any answers to the legitimate question of what governments are supposed to do with hardened criminal asylum seekers, who pose a genuine threat to their surroundings and have been sentenced to deportation, but cannot be deported from the country because of international human rights obligations.

The problem is far from a uniquely Danish one: virtually all European countries have signed international human rights conventions that leave them with the same dilemma.

The country did not just "change". Danish politicians, with their policies, changed it.

 

[ok doser]

this is the sort of crap that drove brexit

 

[The Berean]

Our Country Has Changed.”

In his recent New Year's speech, Danish Prime Minister Lars Løkke Rasmussen mentioned that Muslim parallel societies constitute a problem and that immigrants must learn to put secular values over religious ones. He just did not say how he planned to address all that.

Does the good prime minister not know anything about Islam? That will NEVER happen. I find it ironic that Europe's secular beliefs may end up being its very downfall because Islam is a powerful societal force. Secular values simply don't carry the same societal influence that Islam does. This guy gets it.

The Need For A Fighting Ideology

No one wants to go toe to toe with ISIS, it seems. Everyone is hoping that they will dry up and blow away if we just “cut off their funding” or “provide more training” to the Iraqi military. People who say such things do not fully understand the power of a fanatical, militant ideology. The only way to inspire men to confront ISIS will be to equip them with an ideology of equal conviction and strength.

But where will such an ideology be found? Western leaders and populations are apparently incapable of dying for their beliefs. People in the West find it bizarre that someone would die for his religious beliefs because they themselves are craven, effete cowards who have no convictions themselves. Even the Vatican is too craven to call things by their true names, and to attempt to inspire a military response to the fanaticism that wishes to destroy it. Instead, we are treated to lectures on peace, love, and exhortations to “understand” the grievances of others.

Even nationalism in the West has evidently lost its luster. Who today can imagine battalions of young Spaniards, Frenchmen, Italians, or Germans willing to sacrifice themselves in combat for an ideal? Why do men fight to the death? For consumerism? For feminism? For the “rights of gender equality”? No... No one is speaking the truth, which is this: to destroy ISIS, it will be necessary to undertake a ground campaign characterized by utter ruthlessness. This is an existential battle that has only two possible outcomes: they are triumphant, or we destroy them root and branch.

All of them are making a terrible mistake. ISIS is not a joke. These people are serious, motivated, and actually believe what they are doing. And they are prepared do die. I do not see such opposing conviction coming from anyone in the West.

 

[ok doser]

... to destroy ISIS, it will be necessary to undertake a ground campaign characterized by utter ruthlessness. This is an existential battle that has only two possible outcomes: they are triumphant, or we destroy them root and branch.

the arabs understand this, but when they go medieval, the SJW pantywaists here call foul

All of them are making a terrible mistake. ISIS is not a joke. These people are serious, motivated, and actually believe what they are doing. And they are prepared do die.

and we should help them achieve that goal :thumb:








worth considering as well, that all of this only matters because of oil

and instability in the arab oil-producing regions is better for western economies than stability

at the levels that matter, ISIS is recognized as serving a purpose

 

[Sherman]

They leave their latrine of a country so they can turn Denmark into a latrine. They want to do the same thing to the US.

 

[ok doser]

pretty stupid of the danes to allow it - hopefully we'll act more wisely



and as long as i'm making wishes, i wish i had a pony