Democratic Party unleashes anti-Semitism

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Leftward lurch: Democratic Party shift unleashes anti-Semitism

Leftward lurch: Democratic Party shift unleashes anti-Semitism

Left-leaning politicians emboldened by Trump

jewishchronicle.timesofisrael.com

The Democratic Party has been moving to the left for more than a decade. And along with that leftward shift, certain ideas and attitudes that used to be considered unacceptable, and even shameful — specifically in terms of the Jewish people — have become more widely asserted.​

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It goes without saying that anti-Jewish sentiment has had fertile soil at colleges and universities around the country, for decades.​

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Then came President Barack Obama’s deal with Iran in 2015, which was a watershed moment, but not exclusively because it marked a shift in policy toward Tehran. The political fight on Capitol Hill to get Congress to approve the deal between the Obama White House and its progressive allies who wanted it, versus the more mainstream, bipartisan opposition to the deal as exemplified by American Israel Public Affairs Committee, was the first time the progressive left of the Democratic Party went up against the mainstream left on a formerly bipartisan foreign policy issue, and won.​

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In 2016, with the election of President Donald Trump this leftward shift has accelerated, bringing with it a shift in attitude toward Jews.​

And now Biden will bring it all back to the white house if the courts let him steal the election.

 

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Democrats and Anti-Semitism
The problem isn’t ‘tropes’ that are ‘hurtful.’ It’s policies that aim to wipe out the only Jewish nation.

Opinion | Democrats and Anti-Semitism

The problem isn’t ‘tropes’ that are ‘hurtful.’ It’s policies that aim to wipe out the only Jewish nation.

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[chair]

Definitely a real problem among the Democratic Party. It's not the entire party, by any stretch of the imagination, but it's a growing problem. The Liberal Party in the UK has this problem too.

 

[eider]

Definitely a real problem among the Democratic Party. It's not the entire party, by any stretch of the imagination, but it's a growing problem. The Liberal Party in the UK has this problem too.

Hi Chair......
The UK Labour party did have policies which support the people on the Gaza strip and West bank, it's true, but that surely is not Antisemitism?

 

[chair]

Hi Chair......
The UK Labour party did have policies which support the people on the Gaza strip and West bank, it's true, but that surely is not Antisemitism?

Labour suspends Jeremy Corbyn over reaction to anti-Semitism report

Sir Keir Starmer acts after his predecessor says the scale of the problem within the party has been "overstated".

www.bbc.com

 

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Definitely a real problem among the Democratic Party. It's not the entire party, by any stretch of the imagination, but it's a growing problem. The Liberal Party in the UK has this problem too.

I am glad you admit that. And it is MOST of the party. The last of the moderate democrats were ejected long ago.

Hi Chair......
The UK Labour party did have policies which support the people on the Gaza strip and West bank, it's true, but that surely is not Antisemitism?

But I'll be that antisemitism exists among its proponents.

AFTER World War II the British in British occupied "Palestine" (fake name) treated Jews just about as bad as the Nazis did, minus the death camps.

 

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Labour suspends Jeremy Corbyn over reaction to anti-Semitism report

Sir Keir Starmer acts after his predecessor says the scale of the problem within the party has been "overstated".

www.bbc.com

Thanks for that.
I read it. Now please read thru all that and copy-paste any sentence or paragraph which describes an Anisemitist action.
I don't think you'll find one, Chair.
Where is any single original complaint? The three cases which claim breaches of our Equality Act don't even describe the original complaints.
I am not Antisemitist, Chair, but I think you'll find that any politician who has questioned this stuff has been so branded.
And disagreeing with Israel's policies is not Antisemitist any more that disagreeing with an African nations policies is racist.

 

[Gary K]

Thanks for that.
I read it. Now please read thru all that and copy-paste any sentence or paragraph which describes an Anisemitist action.
I don't think you'll find one, Chair.
Where is any single original complaint? The three cases which claim breaches of our Equality Act don't even describe the original complaints.
I am not Antisemitist, Chair, but I think you'll find that any politician who has questioned this stuff has been so branded.
And disagreeing with Israel's policies or not Antisemitist any more that disagreeing with an African nations policies is racist.

I see you're incapable of doing research on your own.

I rarely agree with Chair, but he is absolutely correct as to the antisemitism in the Labour party. It has always been a party of racists. It was started by racists and held that tradition down to the current day. Even AB admits the Labour party is full of racists and that it always has been. Research the beginnings of the party and see who was instrumental in starting it. They were all Fabian socialists and Fabians were deeply racist. They advocated eugenics as the solution to racial problems.

The British press is full of articles on the racism endemic to the Labour party.

 

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I see you're incapable of doing research on your own.

I rarely agree with Chair, but he is absolutely correct as to the antisemitism in the Labour party. It has always been a party of racists. It was started by racists and held that tradition down to the current day. Even AB admits the Labour party is full of racists and that it always has been. Research the beginnings of the party and see who was instrumental in starting it. They were all Fabian socialists and Fabians were deeply racist. They advocated eugenics as the solution to racial problems.

The British press is full of articles on the racism endemic to the Labour party.

So everybody keeps claiming.......
But I have never seen a single clear allegation of Antisemitism against (for example) Jeremy Corbyn in all the time he was in office. Not one. Just loads of waffle.
Like your stuff above......... not one single incident shown..... just blather.

 

[eider]

@Arthur Brain Hi.....
Please can you come in on this? You might have some facts......
What exactly was the nature of any of the claims of Antisemitism layed against Corbyn? I'm talking about any original allegation that he might have investigated and dismissed?

The way this has always appeared to me has been that it was a railroading.
For instance........ Is the entire US Judicial system 'Replublophobic' because it has (so far) dismissed all allegations of US election rigging? Yes....No?

That's how I see the way that Mr Corbyn was destroyed politically, if he dismissed an allegation he became the allegation.

 

[chair]

I am glad you admit that. And it is MOST of the party. The last of the moderate democrats were ejected long ago.



But I'll be that antisemitism exists among its proponents.

AFTER World War II the British in British occupied "Palestine" (fake name) treated Jews just about as bad as the Nazis did, minus the death camps.

"The last of the moderate democrats were ejected long ago."- a bit of an exaggeration, I think. This is the difference between you and me. For you everything is black and white, no room for the middle. And I must say, saying the British treated the Jews "treated Jews just about as bad as the Nazis did, minus the death camps" is a weird statement. I suspect you may be ignorant of some history there as well.

 

[chair]

Thanks for that.
I read it. Now please read thru all that and copy-paste any sentence or paragraph which describes an Anisemitist action.
I don't think you'll find one, Chair.
Where is any single original complaint? The three cases which claim breaches of our Equality Act don't even describe the original complaints.
I am not Antisemitist, Chair, but I think you'll find that any politician who has questioned this stuff has been so branded.
And disagreeing with Israel's policies is not Antisemitist any more that disagreeing with an African nations policies is racist.

I will not pretend to be an expert in British Labor anti-semitism. It certainly has gotten a lot of attention. I will say that criticizing Israel is fine- as long as you don't hold Israel to a different standard than you would hold other countries. But all this is for another thread...

 

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"The last of the moderate democrats were ejected long ago."- a bit of an exaggeration

Nope.

This is the difference between you and me. For you everything is black and white, no room for the middle.

If I were to prove to you that Democrats embrace infanticide - not abortion, but infanticide - would you switch sides?

And if I could prove to you that they embrace similar evils, how could there ever be room for ay "Middle"? There is no middle when it comes to Good and Evil.

In the old days when all Americans shared the same values, politics were easy. Should we spend more on bridges and schools, or the military and space? Yes, there WAS a middle back then. Compromise was possible.

But now that The Left has destroyed core morals and politicized them, there IS NO middle.

And I must say, saying the British treated the Jews "treated Jews just about as bad as the Nazis did, minus the death camps" is a weird statement. I suspect you may be ignorant of some history there as well.

Don't talk down to me. The British occupiers always sided with the Muftis against the Jews. Have you ever seen "Exodus" (1960) with Paul Newman?

At the end of World War II, the British persisted in their immigration restrictions and Jewish survivors of the Holocaust were violently turned away from the shores of Palestine. The Jewish Agency and the Haganah continued to smuggle Jews into Palestine. Underground cells of Jews, most notably the Irgun and Lehi, engaged in open warfare against the British and their installations.​

Creation of the State of Israel

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[chair]

Don't talk down to me. The British occupiers always sided with the Muftis against the Jews. Have you ever seen "Exodus" (1960) with Paul Newman?

At the end of World War II, the British persisted in their immigration restrictions and Jewish survivors of the Holocaust were violently turned away from the shores of Palestine. The Jewish Agency and the Haganah continued to smuggle Jews into Palestine. Underground cells of Jews, most notably the Irgun and Lehi, engaged in open warfare against the British and their installations.​

Creation of the State of Israel

www.adl.org

Yes, that is true. But is it the whole story? For example- did Jews serve in the British army in WW2? Did some of British help the Jews? History is complicated. There's more to it than what's in a movie.

 

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Yes, that is true

Now its true? A minute ago you said I was ignorant of history.
I know its true. You should apologize, but I won't hold my breath.

But

If "ifs" and "buts" were candy and nuts, we'd all have a merry Christmas.

. . . . did Jews serve in the British army in WW2? . . .

What does that prove, that you used them the way we used Japanese and Indians in our army?

.. . . Did some of British help the Jews?. . .

Did some Germans help the Jews? Yes. Does that prove anything? No.

You are on the side of evil throughout this entire forum and you are starting to really get on my nerves. I am done with you for now. Don't expect any responses from me.

 

[chair]

You are on the side of evil throughout this entire forum and you are starting to really get on my nerves. I am done with you for now. Don't expect any responses from me.

As we say in Hebrew and in Yiddish- "you should be healthy!"

 

[eider]

I will not pretend to be an expert in British Labor anti-semitism. It certainly has gotten a lot of attention. I will say that criticizing Israel is fine- as long as you don't hold Israel to a different standard than you would hold other countries. But all this is for another thread...

Good points, all.
No problems, chair, another thread maybe.

 

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As we say in Hebrew and in Yiddish- "you should be healthy!"

As we say in 'murka - hold my beer

 

[Gary K]

Yes, that is true. But is it the whole story? For example- did Jews serve in the British army in WW2? Did some of British help the Jews? History is complicated. There's more to it than what's in a movie.

Leon Uris' book Exodus, on which the movie is based, is a historical novel. He puts composite fictional characters created from real people in the real historical settings alongside real characters and inside the real events that took place. The British did everything they could to keep that ship full of Jews from reaching the Middle East. And they arrested hundreds of Jews in Israel and fought against them. They cooperated with the Arabs against the Jews while they put forward another face to the world. The Brit's repression of the Jews was intense. They treated the Jews just like they did all the natives of their colonies, and that was harshly.

Uris put years of historical research into each of his books, and they are all historically accurate. His books tell the true stories he writes about. His book The Haj took him a full decade to research and he had a full time assistant just to catalog all the evidence he compiled as he couldn't keep up with both the cataloging and doing the research at the same time.

His book Mila 18 about the Polish Jews and the Warsaw ghetto is another fascinating historical story. It's one of the best books I've ever read on WWII, and I've read hundreds of non-fictional books on WWII. Uris tells outstanding stories and uses the facts of history to tell his stories.

Also, his books on the beginnings of the IRA in Ireland tell a story few people really know. The harshness of the Brits against the Irish was brutal and very cruel. I would have rebelled against that kind of tyranny.