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Criticizing Lawyers, Teachers & Dating
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And here I am at a loss as to why either one of you are responding to, or commenting on, one another or anything the other posts.
If you really didn't care, as you claimed later in the thread, then you wouldn't make such comments as the one above.
Stop being a distraction and grow up.
I means, seriously, I have a socially developmental disorder and I know better. What's your excuse?
I was responding to tardlyartie who was suggesting that I should listen to Town.
Thanks for taking me back to that page.
this example of the normalization of pedophilia got lost in the shuffle:
From the link:
"Sexual relationship"? :freak:
An adult and a sixth grader.
An adult and an eleven or twelve year old.
A pedophile and a child.
When did they start calling child molestation or statutory rape a "sexual relationship"? :freak:
From the link:
"Sexual relationship"? :freak:
An adult and a sixth grader.
An adult and an eleven or twelve year old.
A pedophile and a child.
When did they start calling child molestation or statutory rape a "sexual relationship"? :freak:
Not directly. And the number one reason the law exists is to teach.
Contradiction in terms. You cannot be honest when you are required to represent the rightly charged or the wrongly released.
Don't you worry. I've got that covered.
The lawyers need not have been dishonest. They were just doing their job.
Why are you speaking of feelings. The fact is that a guy was set loose who shouldn't have been and the fact is he went and murdered and raped.
Of course you're interested in an argument. That way you can hide from the facts.
Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. (Galatians 3:24 NKJV)
Speaking of the function of the law does not remove the reason the law was given.
Murderers and rapists have no rights. We are supposed to take them all away.
Your broken and evil system is very popular. Congratulations.
Shall I just call the people who continue to propagate this system evil?
Yep. Your system released a murderer onto society expecting a collar and a debt to keep society safe.
Sure, he is. If he's not a product of your system that fails to teach right from wrong, whose system is he a product of?
A lot of people have the same opinion that res has about attorneys and our legal system. Although I try to judge people by their behavior, not their profession, I don't like many attorneys myself. And, our legal system sucks. Anymore, the rights of the accused matter more than the rights of the victims.
Because that and an anecdotal is all you're speaking to.
Because after the fact you know he did something horrible? That's not just and it's not physically possible for everyone accused of a crime to be held until trial. Even with that slim two percent.
He did. That's not in dispute. Whether that's either a failure of the system or anything like the rule if it is assignable are another matter. You haven't established that you can answer on either count.
Arguments are all about facts. Supra.
That's not the law we're talking about, Stripe. The law given to Israel demonstrated our willful insufficiency and our need for Christ. That was accomplished.
We determine who is a rapist or a murderer at trial. Not at charging.
It's neither and you haven't begun to make the point. Again, the conviction rate speaks against you and you haven't met it with anything more than this declaration.
You can call anyone you want a chair. It doesn't make them furniture.
No. The system released a man accused of possessing child pornography, with no priors, subject to wearing a monitoring device prior to his trial.
It's tragic, but it isn't a product of the system.
You think the problem with that man is that he wasn't aware that what he was doing was evil? You think better of him than I do. But the justice system didn't produce the evil in him or the act he committed. He did that. And he'll answer before the Court in this life and, absent grace, in the next before God.
I know. You want to defend your just-a-system. I want to promote God's law.
God says the law is meant to teach. You think that it is for something else.
He'll answer for every word and action regardless of grace. Grace will save him from the reward for his actions, if granted.
Stripe, how about showing us a system in use at the present that works better than the one we inherited from England?
Interesting--your opinion of teachers. My wife is a teacher. She has 2 master's degrees, been teaching for 20+ years, teaches 2 AP courses, has kids coming back to her from college and telling her that they use notes from her classes to get A's in college. Her complaint is about parents who don't seem to want to parent and expect the teacher to be the parent, yet get upset when they are told their kid is a jerk and perhaps if they took the cell phone away or the BMW keys away, or even suggested that getting that nose ring or tatoo is a bad idea they might have more control.
Nah, been there, done that. 16 years of Catholic school education, then as a young adult some "born again" type Bible study and church. Stayed away from it all for a while. About 10 years ago first heard Pastor Bob on the radio. He made some sense---personal responsibilty etc. And then, one of his favorite scientists was on suggesting that dinosaurs and man lived together just a few thousand years ago.
Down hill from there. The irrationality and craziness came back in spades.
So thank you to both the Catholic school education which, at least for me, was intellectually stimulating and thanks to TOL for allowing me to understand the fear contained in religion and the lack of intellectual honesty in fundamentalism--be it Catholic, Protestant, Islamic or whatever.
let's talk about the teacher's union that protects the teachers at the expense of the children
Ah, fundamentalism at its finest. And we are back to making a choice as to which God is providing that law, aren't we. The nasty god from the OT, the loving god from the NT, the Shia god, Sunni god, Jewish (Hassidic, conservative, reformed, liberal)? So hard to choose.
Stripe seems to be in the "If you've been arrested, you are guilty" camp. Would have fit well with Stalin, no? Or W's Texas that never executed anyone other than those who were guilty. Why bother with the expense of a trial at all?
And I thought the party line was that grace was freely granted, it was up to us to take it. Stripe seems to be a bit of a Calvinist.
some other dude, koban, Thor and a half dozen others over the last ten or eleven years
Maybe in the next incarnation you can chose the user name BANNED
the same union that protects the teachers (the workers) from the administrators (management)?
do you have any specific examples or are you just spouting the right wing Rethug line.
I'll wait while you do your google search. Might want to start with WND, that basic fundy source for information.
Yes, yes, you're much holier than I am, but actually, the system here is what you condemned without foundation and I called you on it. You made a series of one word declarations and you've yet to meet reasoned counter with more than a rephrasing of the same feeling on point and a shifting, which you're adroit at by the way.
I used answer as in pay penalty. That's why it was paralleled with judgment before a secular court. You teach English to kids. You shouldn't need me to tell you that. And no, if he has grace he won't, because if he did his sin would condemn him just as surely as yours or mine would condemn us.
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