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alwight

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Dear Alwight,

I wasn't able to find the problem, unless you posted on the Mother writing a letter to the baby she aborted. It might be a woman's right. It's a shame though. Looking forward to hearing from you. You might have a virus?? If the problem is fixed, then thee you go. If it is not, you could contact Knight. See what happens.

Michael
I didn't have a problem Michael, you seemed to have a problem following my link.

Simona88 on that thread had been telling me off for not properly reading and understanding Jesus' parables, in her opinion, among other swipes at my age and various other things, though I had already thought that I was being trolled earlier.
But if you wanted to read our conversation you may understand more about how I caught her in a lie, and how after I pointed it out, hasn't been back since to my knowledge. Don't bother if you're not too interested, I was just telling you were I had been for a while. :)
 

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I didn't have a problem Michael, you seemed to have a problem following my link.

Simona88 on that thread had been telling me off for not properly reading and understanding Jesus' parables, in her opinion, among other swipes at my age and various other things, though I had already thought that I was being trolled earlier.
But if you wanted to read our conversation you may understand more about how I caught her in a lie, and how after I pointed it out, hasn't been back since to my knowledge. Don't bother if you're not too interested, I was just telling you were I had been for a while. :)


Sure Alwight,

Yes, I'd like to see why she has been trolling you. Aren't they always so sneaky and malicious when they do that? I've been there before and it's a chore.

Will check in with you when you get on.

Much Love,

Michael
 

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Alwight & the Troll

Alwight & the Troll

I didn't have a problem Michael, you seemed to have a problem following my link.

Simona88 on that thread had been telling me off for not properly reading and understanding Jesus' parables, in her opinion, among other swipes at my age and various other things, though I had already thought that I was being trolled earlier.
But if you wanted to read our conversation you may understand more about how I caught her in a lie, and how after I pointed it out, hasn't been back since to my knowledge. Don't bother if you're not too interested, I was just telling you were I had been for a while. :)


Dear Alwight,

I went back through the posts of your thread and can see that she (Simona88) was trolling and arguing with you because she wanted you to believe in things her way. Alwight, you are already set in your own ways to expect to be influenced by her or not. There were pages and pages of your thread that I read. It must have kept you quite busy for a few days now!! She was trying convert you to Christian life, but you didn't let her. Just a young aggressive zealous woman trying to change your way of thinking. That is my assessment.

Michael

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MichaelCadry

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Dear Mainman,

I told Chatmaggot that is not what I meant. I made a mistake. I meant from the time of Creation and then, our Adam and Eve, until Jesus Returns again, is a generation. That is why Jesus said, "This {generation} shall not pass until all of these things be fulfilled." Since I am a YEC now, I have different views on certain subjects. I feel now that the Lord God formed Adam on the 6th day. On the seventh say (Saturday), He Rested. I am doing a 7th Edition of my book next month. Have to make it perfect.

Praise God!!

Michael

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Hey Alwight,

I just found different words to say what I wanted to post to you. See what you think in the message above. I'm gonna hit the sack now and catch some Zzzzzzs. Will hopefully catch up with you tomorrow, if that's what you want.

I will be be back!!

Michael
 

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Dear Alwight,

I'm sorry you got leeched upon by someone. I do see the stuff you go through with everyone, including myself. We are just so fervent that you go to beautiful Heaven. I know you don't understand. I've exasperated myself already. Well, will post again soon. I have to do something now.

Best Wishes,

Michael
 

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Dear Alwight,

Am back! Their shipment at the Auto Parts store didn't bring the window motor that I wanted, so I have to wait until Mon. They said they have to ship it from CA. I was supposed to pick it up this evening, but it didn't come in. Oh well, I will just have to wait a few days. I'm not putting my car in the shop on Mon. or Tues., because it will be too busy. So I'll wait until things slow down there, maybe even a Thurs. They put a new window motor in my driver's side window and it works great now. So, I'm a YEC now like 6days. I am not sure about all of the details, but I was wrong about something. A lot of thunder and rain and lightning. Eeeek! But at least I have my answer. Hey, miss you much. Am going to Red Lobster for dinner 2nite at 7pm. (less than 2 hours away). I'm going to get a 3 lb. Lobster Tail. Can't wait. Hope they bring me enough butter sauce. Heheheehhee!

Well, I hope to chat with you later tonite, but I will have a margarita in me. They are so big, you can only have one with your meal. Just fantastic. Well, you take good care, Al, and I'll get back to you!!

Good Day and Best Wishes,

Michael
 

alwight

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Hi Michael,
I like the way you mix up your day to day mechanical problems with your apparently rather adaptable religiosity.
The real and practical parts of life alongside those I might unkindly call the imagined.
When your window worked again only then did you know for sure it was the motor and not just a faulty switch or mechanical problem. The proof of the pudding is in the eating.
I have no idea why you'd even think that 6days' daft beliefs are worth adopting when the whole world of science and practical experience says he is wrong.
But perhaps you'll be an evolutionary theist this time next week?
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Hi Michael,
I like the way you mix up your day to day mechanical problems with your apparently rather adaptable religiosity.
The real and practical parts of life alongside those I might unkindly call the imagined.

Dear alwight, Good to hear from you again!! Yes my life is about more than just religion. I'm supposed to get the other window motor fixed on Wed. or so. I have to buy the part on Monday and then go to the mechanic on Wed.

When your window worked again only then did you know for sure it was the motor and not just a faulty switch or mechanical problem. The proof of the pudding is in the eating.

Well, Alwight, it could also be a window motor 'regulator.' It's usually one or the other. I'm glad it was just the motor, TBH!

I have no idea why you'd even think that 6days' daft beliefs are worth adopting when the whole world of science and practical experience says he is wrong.
But perhaps you'll be an evolutionary theist this time next week?
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I know what you mean Alwight. I had to do a complete 180 and it has not been easy when the other beliefs I had seemed so right. I'm still in shock a bit and trying to just let time heal my wounds. I don't want to express to someone else things that aren't true. So, I had no choice. Something is up about it all, but we'll only find out when God tells us. I dread doing another edition of my book, but I was planning on it, just not to this degree.

Hey, thanks for posting. It's really good to hear from you, you little trolled-upon guy. I know it isn't any fun.

Warm fuzzy blessings,

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Dear All {edited 10-25-2014},

Forget your Evolution idea!! There is a Higher Power that oversees every little change in every creature He forms. Every nucleus, atom, genome, DNA, electron, etc. That's all, just for now. Re-read and study, and look in your Bibles. Things are happening that you don't know about yet. But the time is upon us.


So you are saying an all mighty dictator will wipe me out from existence for holding to one small stupid idea?.

And then you suggest that I should quit all that and bow to His holy feet and swear eternal love? Just so I can live an eternity like that for fear of His power?

I choose being wiped out
 

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So you are saying an all mighty dictator will wipe me out from existence for holding to one small stupid idea?.

And then you suggest that I should quit all that and bow to His holy feet and swear eternal love and then living an eternity like that just for fear to His power?

I choose being wiped out
 

Stuu

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And then you suggest that I should quit all that and bow to His holy feet and swear eternal love and then living an eternity like that just for fear to His power?
Compulsory love on fear of punishment is just another of the immoral equations of the nasty hobby of christianity.

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So you are saying an all mighty dictator will wipe me out from existence for holding to one small stupid idea?.

And then you suggest that I should quit all that and bow to His holy feet and swear eternal love? Just so I can live an eternity like that for fear of His power?

I choose being wiped out


Dear RobertK,

You are too much! No, that's not what I said. That's just how you want to perceive it. You want to choose to be wiped out? That's your decision.

First of all, He's not hardly a dictator! And he's not going to wipe you out because of holding on to one small stupid idea (if it's stupid, then correct your ideas). You are so negative in your speech and you are seeing things all so wrong. You just want to be agnostic because it makes you different. Yippee!!

Michael

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Compulsory love on fear of punishment is just another of the immoral equations of the nasty hobby of christianity.

Stuart


Dear Stuu,

How're you doing?? It's been so long. I thought surely you must have quit posting, or perhaps got banned for a bit. Was missing you a lot, not having heard from you for so long!!

The love I have for God is not compulsory. It's just how my heart works. I find someone that I fall in love with and so I never let them out of my sight again. I don't do it for fear of being punished. After all I've been through, you might as well call me punished enough already. It has not been an easy ride, Stuart.

You don't have to love God. Maybe He loves you anyways! You all make too much of this punishment. Chances are you will never be sent there, because you have to be awfully rotten to be banished to such a fate as that.

Hey, I got a bunch of work done on my ride (car), so it's like new again. New oxygen sensor, fuel pump, radiator, A/C compressor, front struts, electric window motors, etc. It's really nice.

OK, well I will try to stay 'on-topic' even though I do not like to all of the time. There are more things going on in life besides religion. And what about spirituality?? I'm Christian, yes, but do you know how many different denominations there are??!! I grew up in a Nazarene Church and learned about Jesus, and just fell in love with Him and God. But, since I've been in Phoenix, I've been going to a Baptist Church, and the members are to die for, just such wonderful, loving people. My Pastor sent me a birthday card this month and he came to my house to visit with me for like 1/2 hour or more. It was so nice. And I got baptized there in Full Immersion. I think God was pleased with that.

Well, Stu, will let you go and chat again with you as soon as you want. God Watch Over You For Me!!

Michael

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Dear Alwight,

You are my cool, good buddy!! You're loyal and true, and that is very rare!! I know I did change my mind on things, but I don't feel quite solid enough about the beliefs I had previously, even though it sure gives me more questions than I had. I just wanted to address this issue to you more because you mentioned it in your last post. I still have to work out a few things. Alwight, if God made man and woman when they were older than being little babies, then I guess He can make an Earth and Universe a little less older. Do you understand what I'm saying here?? I sure hope so. God just did not create Adam as a baby, but instead a young man. God most likely did not create a new Earth and Universe, but instead one that was half it's age. It does make sense, TBH. I think you're wonderful Al, and love chatting with you. Don't ever let anything I ever say come between us in the future. Just let me know about it, and I will correct myself to try to understand your beliefs and feelings too. OK? That's what Friends are For!!

So Glad That God Gave Me A Friend Like You!!

Michael
 
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Stuu

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How're you doing?? It's been so long. I thought surely you must have quit posting, or perhaps got banned for a bit. Was missing you a lot, not having heard from you for so long!!
Well thanks. The red username gives away the holiday that the mods sent me on.

The love I have for God is not compulsory. It's just how my heart works.
Well that must make it easier for you then. Because whether you want to show it love or not, it does demand it, apparently.

I find someone that I fall in love with and so I never let them out of my sight again. I don't do it for fear of being punished. After all I've been through, you might as well call me punished enough already. It has not been an easy ride, Stuart.
No, indeed. And think how much easier it would have been if you hadn't beaten yourself up over christian dogma.

You don't have to love God. Maybe He loves you anyways!
Maybe it's not really there. Perhaps it is just another god invented by fearful or ambitious humans. I'm sure you would agree that at least some of the invented 10,000 gods you don't believe in come into one of those categories. I just go one god further than you.

You all make too much of this punishment. Chances are you will never be sent there, because you have to be awfully rotten to be banished to such a fate as that.
Mark 3:29 says that blasphemy is enough to ensure my permanent destruction in burning sulfur. I have blasphemed intentionally, just to avoid an eternity with your monstrous god. But then, it doesn't exist, so it was really just for fun that I took its name in vain.

Hey, I got a bunch of work done on my ride (car), so it's like new again. New oxygen sensor, fuel pump, radiator, A/C compressor, front struts, electric window motors, etc. It's really nice.
I always find my car drives more smoothly, even when I have only washed the windows or done something irrelevant to smooth riding! I guess I must be driving more carefully after spending time cleaning it!

OK, well I will try to stay 'on-topic' even though I do not like to all of the time. There are more things going on in life besides religion. And what about spirituality?? I'm Christian, yes, but do you know how many different denominations there are??!!
39,000. And counting.

I grew up in a Nazarene Church and learned about Jesus, and just fell in love with Him and God. But, since I've been in Phoenix, I've been going to a Baptist Church, and the members are to die for, just such wonderful, loving people. My Pastor sent me a birthday card this month and he came to my house to visit with me for like 1/2 hour or more. It was so nice. And I got baptized there in Full Immersion. I think God was pleased with that.
I see. Are you full Southern Baptist, with all the homophobia, "instructing women to exhibit loving submission to their husbands", and the moronic promotion of teaching creationism in schools, thus proposing to abuse children intellectually by lying to them about natural history?

I couldn't respect that as a choice for anyone to make.

God Watch Over You For Me!!
I shouldn't think that is likely. Not unless it is waiting for an opportunity to smite me.

Stuart
 

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Well thanks. The red username gives away the holiday that the mods sent me on.

Well that must make it easier for you then. Because whether you want to show it love or not, it does demand it, apparently.

No, indeed. And think how much easier it would have been if you hadn't beaten yourself up over christian dogma.

Dear Stuu,

Why do they give you holidays all of the time??

God does not demand your love. Oh, I haven't been beaten up so badly that I don't still love Him very much. I don't mind much at all that it is difficult to travel down the road that leads to where I'm going. Hey Stuu, I'm really glad to hear from you again and really MISSED YOU!! I wish you would not get banned so much. Did you notice that I became a Lifetime Member??

Maybe it's not really there. Perhaps it is just another god invented by fearful or ambitious humans. I'm sure you would agree that at least some of the invented 10,000 gods you don't believe in come into one of those categories. I just go one god further than you.

Perhaps it is, Stuart. But most likely, it's not. I've had too many experiences in my life that make it impossible to think anything else possible. Didn't you know that I have been visited by an angel and he said, "Fear God and give glory to Him, for the 'hour' of His judgment has come upon all of the earth, and worship Him Who made the earth and heaven, and the sea, and the fountains of waters." This is only one little part that has happened to me in my life. How could I believe any other way?

Mark 3:29 says that blasphemy is enough to ensure my permanent destruction in burning sulfur. I have blasphemed intentionally, just to avoid an eternity with your monstrous god. But then, it doesn't exist, so it was really just for fun that I took its name in vain.

Well, Stuart, I even have swore at God once and He loved me through it anyway. I know this is all fact. I was robbed in Miami a couple years after God first visited me and I was livid. And I used the four-letter word to God and I really regret it. It was only $16, but back then, that was a whole week's worth of groceries and bus fare. They really had me hoodwinked, the two guys who robbed me.

I always find my car drives more smoothly, even when I have only washed the windows or done something irrelevant to smooth riding! I guess I must be driving more carefully after spending time cleaning it!

39,000. And counting.

Yes, Stuu, my car is clean. I am going to get it detailed though, so it's just right. I need something done with the headlights, etc., and a couple other things.

So there are 39,000 different denominations of Christians?? Surely no! Everyone has their own take on things I guess. It's a real shame.

I see. Are you full Southern Baptist, with all the homophobia, "instructing women to exhibit loving submission to their husbands", and the moronic promotion of teaching creationism in schools, thus proposing to abuse children intellectually by lying to them about natural history?

I couldn't respect that as a choice for anyone to make.

I shouldn't think that is likely. Not unless it is waiting for an opportunity to smite me.

Stuart
No, I am not Southern Baptist, thank God. No homophobia! My Pastor knows that I was gay before. It's not at all that way. They are very 'lenient' there. You can even wear blue jeans to the church service. That's all some have down here. You know, I'm in SouthWest Baptist land.

Oh Stuart, God is not waiting in the wings to smite you. You've got all the wrong ideas about Him! Southern Baptists are in Georgia, etc. On the east side of the U.S.

Well, I just love hearing from you dude!! I do hope you will try not to get banned for a while. You're a good friend and I do hope that someday, you will know that He loves you and has your own best interests in Mind. Just relax a bit, Stuu!!

Much Love Coming Your Way,

Michael

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alwight

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Dear Alwight,

You are my cool, good buddy!! You're loyal and true, and that is very rare!! I know I did change my mind on things, but I don't feel quite solid enough about the beliefs I had previously, even though it sure gives me more questions than I had. I just wanted to address this issue to you more because you mentioned it in your last post. I still have to work out a few things. Alwight, if God made man and woman when they were older than being little babies, then I guess He can make an Earth and Universe a little less older. Do you understand what I'm saying here?? I sure hope so. God just did not create Adam as a baby, but instead a young man. God most likely did not create a new Earth and Universe, but instead one that was half it's age. It does make sense, TBH.
Have you stopped to think that Genesis nevertheless is simply only a bronze age scripture. Not written from any special experience or understanding of evidence but because there were no answers, that at the time people were utterly ignorant and feared the unknown?


I think you're wonderful Al, and love chatting with you. Don't ever let anything I ever say come between us in the future. Just let me know about it, and I will correct myself to try to understand your beliefs and feelings too. OK? That's what Friends are For!!

So Glad That God Gave Me A Friend Like You!!

Michael
Thanks Michael, shucks, but I'm probably not all that wonderful at all tbh. :nono:
I am somewhat bemused by those who seem to feel a great need to cling to a literal Genesis for some reason, at all costs. I can only suggest instead that a more scientifically based interpretation of the evidence should be considered as rather more likely to be true.
 

Stuu

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Why do they give you holidays all of the time??
They must think I need a rest from all my hard work.

God does not demand your love.
Deuteronomy 10:12
Matthew 22:37-38
Luke 10:27

Didn't you know that I have been visited by an angel and he said, "Fear God and give glory to Him, for the 'hour' of His judgment has come upon all of the earth, and worship Him Who made the earth and heaven, and the sea, and the fountains of waters."
You haven't been visited by an angel. Angels aren't real.

Well, Stuart, I even have swore at God once and He loved me through it anyway.
You haven't actually done that either, because gods aren't real.

Of course the Southwestern Baptists won't allow you to think that.

So there are 39,000 different denominations of Christians?? Surely no! Everyone has their own take on things I guess. It's a real shame.
But all the rest are wrong and you are right, correct?

Oh Stuart, God is not waiting in the wings to smite you.
I think we can agree on that!

I do hope that someday, you will know that He loves you and has your own best interests in Mind.
You certainly have an impressive capacity for forgiveness. I think if I was gay I would have lost patience with christians in general, and baptists in particular who appear to need you to deny your sexuality. That really is unforgivable of them; they are ignorant of the reality that sexual orientation isn't a matter of choice and once established is an essential part of a person's identity for life. That's not something to be ashamed of or denied, it is something to celebrate.

These Southwestern baptists, are they the conservative ones?

Stuart
 
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