God didn't choose them to lead, God holds the patent on male leadership- man simply gave women authorization in certain times, out of necessity, in an absence of a man.
That's what you all can't get for the life of you- patriarchy.
Clinton and her supporters are weeping & gnashing their teeth for a very good reason
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God didn't choose them to lead, God holds the patent on male leadership- man simply gave women authorization in certain times, out of necessity, in an absence of a man.
That's what you all can't get for the life of you- patriarchy.
ok doser
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Deborah was a prophet and a judge - a leader
now, you may argue that men allowed her to be a judge
i doubt you'd argue that men allowed her to be a prophet
Prophets were spokesmen for GOD.
Deborah was GOD's prophet to lead and judge the nation.
There was no shortage of men.
Sorry that GOD put a woman in charge to put a damper on your women hatred agenda.
Prophets were spokesmen for GOD.
Deborah was GOD's prophet to lead and judge the nation.
Sorry that GOD put a woman in charge to put a damper on your women hatred agenda.
Yep.
Judges 4:4-5 KJV
(4) And Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lapidoth, she judged Israel at that time.
(5) And she dwelt under the palm tree of Deborah between Ramah and Bethel in mount Ephraim: and the children of Israel came up to her for judgment.
Exodus 15:20 KJV
(20) And Miriam the prophetess, the sister of Aaron, took a timbrel in her hand; and all the women went out after her with timbrels and with dances.
Micah 6:4 KJV
(4) For I brought thee up out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed thee out of the house of servants; and I sent before thee Moses, Aaron, and Miriam.
(20) And Miriam the prophetess, the sister of Aaron, took a timbrel in her hand; and all the women went out after her with timbrels and with dances.
Micah 6:4 KJV
(4) For I brought thee up out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed thee out of the house of servants; and I sent before thee Moses, Aaron, and Miriam.
Where there woman leaders in any O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments nation?
Where there woman leaders in any O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments nation?
Are those examples of women leaders related to nations that esteemed, use and promoted the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments tradition?
. . . because under the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments tradition women were not equal to men.
It is truly, grabbing at straws, to hold on to a few possible exceptions to the general rule.
Clearly you who do that is simply seeking to justify your arbitrary, self-serving beliefs and actions.
The O.T. which anchored the Jewish nation is anchored on:
Genesis 2
22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
1 Peter 3 King James Version (KJV)
1 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;
5 For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands:
6 Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement.
This means that women who esteem, use and promote the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandment system cannot also seek to be equal to men because under that system men and women are not equal.
Women who seek to be equal to men and also esteem, use and promote the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments are seeking to 'eat their cake and save it too'. They are playing both side for their benefit.
They are under the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandment system and they will be judged and punished for defying the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandment prescriptions.
Clinton and her followers want the protection of the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments tradition and are simultaneously defying the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments tradition by seeking to be equal to men.
This is why Clinton and her followers are weeping and gnashing their teeth, according to:
Luke: 13 KJV N.T.
28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.
The time to wake-up to truth is at hand.
Where there woman leaders in any O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments nation?
Are those examples of women leaders related to nations that esteemed, use and promoted the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments tradition?
. . . because under the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments tradition women were not equal to men.
It is truly, grabbing at straws, to hold on to a few possible exceptions to the general rule.
Clearly you who do that is simply seeking to justify your arbitrary, self-serving beliefs and actions.
The O.T. which anchored the Jewish nation is anchored on:
Genesis 2
22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
1 Peter 3 King James Version (KJV)
1 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;
5 For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands:
6 Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement.
This means that women who esteem, use and promote the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandment system cannot also seek to be equal to men because under that system men and women are not equal.
Women who seek to be equal to men and also esteem, use and promote the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments are seeking to 'eat their cake and save it too'. They are playing both side for their benefit.
They are under the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandment system and they will be judged and punished for defying the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandment prescriptions.
Clinton and her followers want the protection of the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments tradition and are simultaneously defying the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments tradition by seeking to be equal to men.
This is why Clinton and her followers are weeping and gnashing their teeth, according to:
Luke: 13 KJV N.T.
28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.
The time to wake-up to truth is at hand.
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Another "blip" for Cru.
When a king wanted to know more about the law and how to worship GOD, his men were sent to a woman for instructions.
2 Chronicles 34:22 KJV
(22) And Hilkiah, and they that the king had appointed, went to Huldah the prophetess, the wife of Shallum the son of Tikvath, the son of Hasrah, keeper of the wardrobe; (now she dwelt in Jerusalem in the college
and they spake to her to that effect.
When a king wanted to know more about the law and how to worship GOD, his men were sent to a woman for instructions.
2 Chronicles 34:22 KJV
(22) And Hilkiah, and they that the king had appointed, went to Huldah the prophetess, the wife of Shallum the son of Tikvath, the son of Hasrah, keeper of the wardrobe; (now she dwelt in Jerusalem in the college
and they spake to her to that effect.
Grabbing at straws????
POSSIBLE exceptions????
It is fact that GOD chose both men and women to rule, judge, and instruct men.
I bet you "blip" guys would love to rip those scriptures from your bible.
Where and when did God chose women to lead among any nation, who esteemed, used, quoted, invoked and promoted the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments tradition?
Do not desecrate the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments tradition. The O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments tradition is anchored on women being subservient to men:
Genesis 2
22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
1 Peter 3 King James Version (KJV)
1 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;
5 For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands:
6 Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement.
Under the Old covenant and Peter's Catholic tradition, 'the word' (from God) is: ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands
You are simply twisting and corrupting things to have them support your own agenda. You are quoting instances among nations who did not esteem, use and promote the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments tradition. Clearly they are free to do as they like.
However it it totally different for nations who esteem, use, quote, invoke and promote the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments tradition. In such nations it is a grave sin for women to seek to be equal to men.
The question is do you (if you are female) and/or any other woman, esteem, use, quote, invoke and promote the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments, on the one hand and simultaneously seek to be equal to men on the other hand. This would be a grave sin which lead to weeping and gnashing of teeth, as experienced by Clinton, her followers and co.
Equality between men and women is earned only by those women who totally drop and transgress the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments tradition so as to fully embrace and serve, the N.T./spirit and Spirit/Christian tradition.
The above is the God given law among Abraham's generations and all others who esteem, use, quote, invoke and promote the 'bible'.
Do not posture like a lemon used car salesperson so as to sell us your lemon idea.
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God chooses one to reveal His message, and you think that suffices as an argument that women are willed to lead because you're an idiot :wave2:
You're a perfect example of why women aren't allowed to preach God's Word.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
A prophet reveals God's Word. They are conduits.
And Deborah didn't prophesy anything that required edification. How.. incidental
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
and how is that different from preaching God's Word?
Preaching is edifying and understanding. There is no Book of Deborah.
Let it sink in..
The O.T. Word of God for women is, "ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands".
The O.T. Word of God for women is, "ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands".
Women cannot esteem use, invoke (on their husbands and others) and promote the O.T/Mosaic/ten commandments and also seek to be equal to men. If they do, they will be weeping and gnashing their teeth in bitter disappointment (like Clinton and her followers) and be delivered to hell.
Genesis 2
22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
1 Peter 3 King James Version (KJV)
1 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;
5 For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands:
6 Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement.
You guys who like to bash Paul. The above is from Peter. It is 'the word' (from God) which women must obey.
Under the O.T/Mosaic/ten commandment covenant and Peter's Catholic tradition, 'the word from God' is as follows:
"ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands"
Under the O.T/Mosaic/ten commandment covenant and Peter's Catholic tradition, there is no equality between men and woman . . . and indeed these traditions clearly practice this 'Word from God'. It is a God given commandment to O.T./Mosaic/ten commandment people and Catholics.
It is only under the N.T./spirit and Spirit/Christian tradition that women can be equal to men. This is when they totally drop, oppose and routinely transgress the O/T/Mosaic/ten commandment system so as to serve spirit/love unconditionally and so be Christians:
Galatians: 3 KJV N.T.
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
According to the bible, it is only in the above circumstance that women earn equality to men.
Equality between men and women is simply not available under the O.T,/Mosaic/ten commandment tradition. God's word for people in the O.T,/Mosaic/ten commandment tradition is, "ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands". The husband is lord of the wife.
Women who esteem, use, quote, promote and invoke (i.e. on their spouses and others), the O.T,/Mosaic/ten commandment, even in the slightest way, are obligated to obey the above 'word of God' for women, i.e. "ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands".
If such women fail to obey the above 'word of God' for women, severe punished will be dispensed to them, under the prescriptions of the O.T,/Mosaic/ten commandment tradition.
To start with they will be weeping and gnashing their teeth in bitter disappointment, like Clinton and co., and eventual delivery to hell . . . which in Clinton case could start with imprisonment.
It is all up to Christ consciousness who is ruling, powerfully, on earth, at this time.
Ever heard of Humpty-Dumpty who had a great fall and all the kings men and all the kings horses (all her big supporters and their power) could not put Humpty-Dumpty together again.
The O.T. Word of God for women is, "ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands".
Women cannot esteem use, invoke (on their husbands and others) and promote the O.T/Mosaic/ten commandments and also seek to be equal to men. If they do, they will be weeping and gnashing their teeth in bitter disappointment (like Clinton and her followers) and be delivered to hell.
Genesis 2
22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
1 Peter 3 King James Version (KJV)
1 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;
5 For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands:
6 Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement.
You guys who like to bash Paul. The above is from Peter. It is 'the word' (from God) which women must obey.
Under the O.T/Mosaic/ten commandment covenant and Peter's Catholic tradition, 'the word from God' is as follows:
"ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands"
Under the O.T/Mosaic/ten commandment covenant and Peter's Catholic tradition, there is no equality between men and woman . . . and indeed these traditions clearly practice this 'Word from God'. It is a God given commandment to O.T./Mosaic/ten commandment people and Catholics.
It is only under the N.T./spirit and Spirit/Christian tradition that women can be equal to men. This is when they totally drop, oppose and routinely transgress the O/T/Mosaic/ten commandment system so as to serve spirit/love unconditionally and so be Christians:
Galatians: 3 KJV N.T.
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
According to the bible, it is only in the above circumstance that women earn equality to men.
Equality between men and women is simply not available under the O.T,/Mosaic/ten commandment tradition. God's word for people in the O.T,/Mosaic/ten commandment tradition is, "ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands". The husband is lord of the wife.
Women who esteem, use, quote, promote and invoke (i.e. on their spouses and others), the O.T,/Mosaic/ten commandment, even in the slightest way, are obligated to obey the above 'word of God' for women, i.e. "ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands".
If such women fail to obey the above 'word of God' for women, severe punished will be dispensed to them, under the prescriptions of the O.T,/Mosaic/ten commandment tradition.
To start with they will be weeping and gnashing their teeth in bitter disappointment, like Clinton and co., and eventual delivery to hell . . . which in Clinton case could start with imprisonment.
It is all up to Christ consciousness who is ruling, powerfully, on earth, at this time.
Ever heard of Humpty-Dumpty who had a great fall and all the kings men and all the kings horses (all her big supporters and their power) could not put Humpty-Dumpty together again.
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The mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven will not be found in the O.T.
The mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven will not be found in the O.T.
There is a very good reason why one should not esteem, use and promote the O.T., at all.
However if one esteems, uses and promotes the O.T. one will be judged and rewarded or punished according to its tenants.
Do you guys know that the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven is not any where in the O.T.?
That is, the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven will not be found in the Old Testament.
The O.T. was not focused on delivering anyone to God's kingdom of heaven. In fact the ideas and tenants in the O.T. cannot deliver anyone into God's kingdom of heaven.
The O.T. is simply a tool (like a schoolmaster/police service) for managing spiritually 'dead' people until they become given to know these mysteries by being 'converted'.
The mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven will not be found in the O.T.
There is a very good reason why one should not esteem, use and promote the O.T., at all.
However if one esteems, uses and promotes the O.T. one will be judged and rewarded or punished according to its tenants.
Do you guys know that the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven is not any where in the O.T.?
That is, the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven will not be found in the Old Testament.
The O.T. was not focused on delivering anyone to God's kingdom of heaven. In fact the ideas and tenants in the O.T. cannot deliver anyone into God's kingdom of heaven.
The O.T. is simply a tool (like a schoolmaster/police service) for managing spiritually 'dead' people until they become given to know these mysteries by being 'converted'.
The time is at hand for truth to be clearly and commonly known.
The time is at hand for truth to be clearly and commonly known.
Colossians: 1
26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:
Matthew: 13 King James Version (KJV)
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
The mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven was made available to Abraham's generations just 2000 years ago. And even then these mysteries were given, by Jesus, to only the twelve disciples (his saints) in private session among only them.
This means that the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven will not be found in the Old Testament. Also these mysteries will not be found every where in the Holy KJV N.T.. These mysteries will be found only in the Holy KJV N.T. and only in those revelations which Jesus made in very private sessions with only his disciples.
The time is at hand for truth to be clearly and commonly known.
The time is at hand for truth to be clearly and commonly known.
Colossians: 1
26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:
Matthew: 13 King James Version (KJV)
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
The mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven was made available to Abraham's generations just 2000 years ago. And even then these mysteries were given, by Jesus, to only the twelve disciples (his saints) in private session among only them.
This means that the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven will not be found in the Old Testament. Also these mysteries will not be found every where in the Holy KJV N.T.. These mysteries will be found only in the Holy KJV N.T. and only in those revelations which Jesus made in very private sessions with only his disciples.
The time is at hand for truth to be clearly and commonly known.
What about the anti Trumpers?