chrysostom’s 2013 annual awards

[Town Heretic]

so what is going on in austin?
and
why won't you talk about it?

I've told you repeatedly, because it's a side bar. It won't decide the issue. Whether or not Texas funds Planned Parenthood isn't on the point of the legality of abortion.

Why won't you talk about the issue directly relating to Roe, my objection to your plan for overturning it, which you admit requires the destruction of a whole party as opposed to the altering of people on a single issue and addressing the matter once and for all through amendment?

It's a simple question you've never answered. Is it easier to destroy an entire political philosophy/orientation or to change minds on a single issue?

If you ever answered that you'd be arguing against your own position.

 

[chrysostom]

I've told you repeatedly, because it's a side bar. It won't decide the issue. Whether or not Texas funds Planned Parenthood isn't on the point of the legality of abortion.

Why won't you talk about the issue directly relating to Roe, my objection to your plan for overturning it, which you admit requires the destruction of a whole party as opposed to the altering of people on a single issue and addressing the matter once and for all through amendment?

It's a simple question you've never answered. Is it easier to destroy an entire political philosophy/orientation or to change minds on a single issue?

If you ever answered that you'd be arguing against your own position.

aren't you in favor of restricting abortion?

 

[Town Heretic]

aren't you in favor of restricting abortion?

I've answered plenty of your questions. I'm not interested in answering more side bars until you answer my argument, the one you've been ducking for a long, long time.

Is it easier/more likely to destroy a party/political philosophy or to change the minds of people on a single issue?

I'll wait while you don't address it, again.

 

[chrysostom]

I've answered plenty of your questions.

not really
but
I will assume you would be in favor of restricting abortions
which
the republicans are doing in austin
and
the democrats are trying to block that

doesn't this prove that there is a difference in the two parties regarding abortion?

 

[Town Heretic]

not really
but
I will assume you would be in favor of restricting abortions
which
the republicans are doing in austin
and
the democrats are trying to block that

doesn't this prove that there is a difference in the two parties regarding abortion?

I'm not going to argue Austin and what is being done there while you keep dodging a more important question.

 

[chrysostom]

I'm not going to argue Austin and what is being done there while you keep dodging a more important question.

what question is that?

 

[Town Heretic]

what question is that?

Whether it's easier to destroy an entire party and change an overall political philosophy or to change people's mind on a single issue.

 

[chrysostom]

Whether it's easier to destroy an entire party and change an overall political philosophy or to change people's mind on a single issue.

we are very close to destroying the democratic party
union money is the only thing now holding it together
that is why the battle in wisconsin was so significant
pension plans are just beginning to bankrupt states
the backlash against unions will eliminate the money the democrats need

it is easier for you to talk about abstract issues than it is to defend your support for a party where the number one issue is keeping abortion legal

you voted for a man who has since put two young liberals on the court and they will out live both of us

 

[zoo22]

we are very close to destroying the democratic party

:chuckle:

And your Newt avatar tells the story loud and clear. Newt's moonlike moonpielike face, beaming down like a light on the pile of rubble that is the democratic party.

 

[zoo22]

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And the winner is Chrysostom, for "Newt!"

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And the winner is Chrysostom, for "Newt!"

 

[Town Heretic]

we are very close to destroying the democratic party

No, you really aren't (see: the last few elections).

union money is the only thing now holding it together

No, it really isn't.

it is easier for you to talk about abstract issues than it is to defend your support for a party where the number one issue is keeping abortion legal

Except I don't support the Democratic party anymore than I support the Republican party (the one I vote more often for, on average).

you voted for a man who has since put two young liberals on the court and they will out live both of us

And I voted against him. But the Court isn't going to reverse Roe any more than it did when the conservative appointments gave the ruling or at any time sense.

We need an amendment. And you still didn't answer that simple question.

Run chrys, run. lain:

 

[chrysostom]

:chuckle:

And your Newt avatar tells the story loud and clear. Newt's moonlike moonpielike face, beaming down like a light on the pile of rubble that is the democratic party.

this should also make you laugh
the primary purpose of obamacare was to save the unions
and
that would save the democratic party
can you stop laughing long enough to finish reading this?
the unions can't afford their own health plans
the only solution was to force people who don't need it to join
and
reduce the cost for those who do
it's not working because the industry must gear up for all these additional patients who can't figure out how to avoid getting sucked in
the only way to pay for all this is with inflation
the democrats will get blamed
and
the voters will ask the republicans to fix it
this is the best I can do to make you laugh
until it hurts

 

[Eeset]

this should also make you laugh
the primary purpose of obamacare was to save the unions
and
that would save the democratic party
can you stop laughing long enough to finish reading this?
the unions can't afford their own health plans
the only solution was to force people who don't need it to join
and
reduce the cost for those who do
it's not working because the industry must gear up for all these additional patients who can't figure out how to avoid getting sucked in
the only way to pay for all this is with inflation
the democrats will get blamed
and
the voters will ask the republicans to fix it
this is the best I can do to make you laugh
until it hurts

Is there an award for this?

 

[zoo22]

this should also make you laugh
the primary purpose of obamacare was to save the unions
and
that would save the democratic party
can you stop laughing long enough to finish reading this?
the unions can't afford their own health plans
the only solution was to force people who don't need it to join
and
reduce the cost for those who do
it's not working because the industry must gear up for all these additional patients who can't figure out how to avoid getting sucked in
the only way to pay for all this is with inflation
the democrats will get blamed
and
the voters will ask the republicans to fix it
this is the best I can do to make you laugh
until it hurts

Is there an award for this?

Chrysostom has already won the 2013 semi-annual TOL Brickest Wall Award.

 

[chrysostom]

Chrysostom has already won the 2013 semi-annual TOL Brickest Wall Award.

why aren't you laughing?

 

[Town Heretic]

why aren't you laughing?

:think: You're not funny?

Just a guess, mind you. Maybe try some pithy graphic next time, like:

Just to punch it up a little.

 

[chrysostom]

so let's talk about town's amendment

for starters it only takes 34 democrats to stop it
and
they have always had at least 41 votes to block a judge

you have to destroy the democratic party to allow an amendment on abortion

maybe town can explain this

 

[Town Heretic]

so let's talk about town's amendment

for starters it only takes 34 democrats to stop it
and
they have always had at least 41 votes to block a judge

you have to destroy the democratic party to allow an amendment on abortion

maybe town can explain this

I already did. It's not about party. It's about the issue. Change minds on the issue and the party will reflect it. That's why Democrats in the South aren't still segregationists, by way of.

You won't answer the question ever, will you. Can't really, not and keep that angry corner of yours. :nono:

 

[chrysostom]

I already did.

he has already answered all the questions

You won't answer the question ever, will you.

and I have not answered any

how can anyone respect this?

 

[Town Heretic]

he has already answered all the questions

I've answered that one. And I gave you a brief version again, right after the line you posted.

and I have not answered any

You haven't answered the one, crucial question I've asked more than once.

This is dissembling on your part. It's silly and wasteful. Just say that you can't and have done with it. Say you're invested and you aren't going to change regardless.

how can anyone respect this?

lain: