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Good to hear that you don't give credit to unbelief even if the person is DNA Israel.

I've never said ANYTHING that could possibly make a reasonable person think otherwise.

The Israel of God exists by faith, so it includes Christians of all kinds, Rom 9:26.

No, ignornant one.... the Israel of God is BELIEVING Israel. Plain and simple. Probably too simple for someone so "smart" like you to understand.

And, of course, you're too stupid to actually understand Romans 9:6.

It is NOT inclusive, it is EXCLUSIVE. It is saying that UNBELIEVING Israel is NOT Israel. Not that something else is included.

You're also completely BLIND to Paul's explanation of THEIR (Israel) restoration as mentioned in Romans 11:15

 

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It sounds like a subgroup until you get to the end of 9 where it is clearly includes non Jews. That is inarguable fact. You are mistaken again. It has 4 OT quotes supporting both Jew and Gentile. The 'not a people' is not intra-Israel, nor is it Tam's 'at one time...and then later...they were a people again.' It is what Paul says there.

Rom 11 is not about Israel in Judea again in the future. It is spurring Israel right then to be missionaries like him. If they would believe , they would be the leading evangelists of the time, as was the vision of Isaiah.

The Israel of God is all who have faith. There is not going to be separate programs, blessings for Jewish believers in Judea. Gentile believers are not going to be hauled there to be 'really' blessed. The blessing of God is Jesus Christ and forgiveness through him; the promise is the Spirit to take God's mission to the ends of the earth. Graduate from the elementary pictures and learn the reality of Christ.

'Saved' in Romans never means a restored Israel. Justification and transformation but not anything about Israel. 11:26 is not a soundbyte that validates D'ism when studied properly.

 

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It sounds like a subgroup until you get to the end of 9 where it is clearly includes non Jews. That is inarguable fact. You are mistaken again. It has 4 OT quotes supporting both Jew and Gentile. The 'not a people' is not intra-Israel, nor is it Tam's 'at one time...and then later...they were a people again.' It is what Paul says there.

Rom 11 is not about Israel in Judea again in the future. It is spurring Israel right then to be missionaries like him. If they would believe , they would be the leading evangelists of the time, as was the vision of Isaiah.

The Israel of God is all who have faith. There is not going to be separate programs, blessings for Jewish believers in Judea. Gentile believers are not going to be hauled there to be 'really' blessed. The blessing of God is Jesus Christ and forgiveness through him; the promise is the Spirit to take God's mission to the ends of the earth. Graduate from the elementary pictures and learn the reality of Christ.

'Saved' in Romans never means a restored Israel. Justification and transformation but not anything about Israel. 11:26 is not a soundbyte that validates D'ism when studied properly.

Made up.

 

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Now some D'ists are finally listening and realizing that they might not have meant what they said. they are now writing that the meant believing Jews this whole time, even though I asked over and over if they meant the nation of Israel and the full operation of Judaism as a worship system.

some of them are now saying all they meant was believing Jews. That's an improvement but it beggars what 'believe' means. If Christians can't fellowship with others who 'believe' because it was meant to be segregated, what good is that?

That's why I asked the questions about DOVID MEYER the 'Christian' movie that was an appeal to Jews be an excited Hassidim. There wasn't anything Christian in it, but there it was on 'Christian' TV.

 

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Now some D'ists are finally listening and realizing that they might not have meant what they said. they are now writing that the meant believing Jews this whole time, even though I asked over and over if they meant the nation of Israel and the full operation of Judaism as a worship system.

some of them are now saying all they meant was believing Jews. That's an improvement but it beggars what 'believe' means. If Christians can't fellowship with others who 'believe' because it was meant to be segregated, what good is that?

That's why I asked the questions about DOVID MEYER the 'Christian' movie that was an appeal to Jews be an excited Hassidim. There wasn't anything Christian in it, but there it was on 'Christian' TV.

huh? Who is Dovid Meyer? Why should we care? What are you talking about?