Calvinism and the word "Predestination"
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And it is predestined that those in him are Holy and blameless.
Ephesians 3
9 and to make all see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the ages has been hidden in God who created all things through Jesus Christ;
Yes, I don't want to believe that God is unjust. Predestination makes God unjust.
Brother Ducky
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Well, OK. First of all, predestination does not make God unjust.
Secondly, it appears that you do not want to deal with the post [most posts, for that matter] because the simple reading teaches something you do not like.
So, what Pauline scriptures do you want to tear out of the Bible. All of Romans? Just chapter 8? All of Paul's writings?
beloved57
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pateism makes God Unjust, it teaches that sinners Christ died for are still lost/condemned even though God's justice has been satisfied for them !
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You must be reading the OT with your eyes closed, but of course you are, judicially closed.
God is holy. just, merciful and righteous and is not willing that any should perish, 2 Peter 3:9.
You apparently don't think so.
The fact remains. There is no scripture that says God predestinates people to heaven or to hell.
Brother Ducky
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There is no scripture that says that Pate exists, so therefore he does not exist.
God is not guilty for the lost. When it comes to the salvation of fallen man God is off the hook.
God has done all that he can do for fallen man. There is nothing more that he can do. The ball is now in humanities court so that... "Whosoever that shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved" Romans 10:13.
"I have set before you this day both life and death. Choose life" Deuteronomy 30:19.
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But God allowed for the lost to be born knowing their eternal destiny. That's a fact. That you judge from your fallen created vantage point. Which is a sin.
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glorydaz
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He didn't try to define God. Untwist your knickers, brat boy.
glorydaz
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I don't suppose you have a proof of that statement either.
Yeah he does each time he calls into question the destiny of the lost.
Here's a great one for you kid:
There are people who have been born, lived their whole life and died without ever hearing of Jesus or Adam.
I say too bad. Pate says God is unjust..
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Because you adhere to the absolute ridiculous idea that God doesn't know the future I won't waste my time arguing with you .
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glorydaz
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Yep,
Galatians 3:22
But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
glorydaz
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Oh, do I adhere to that idea? What would I do without you to tell me what I believe?
The real reason you won't argue with me is because I make you prove your statements....which you very seldom do, by the way. I'd like to see your proof for your statement at the top of this post.