BROTHERHOOD OF THE URANTIA FANATICS!

freelight

Eclectic Theosophist
You evidently don't work! You're on here day and night! Are
you retired, bed ridden, or, in someway immobilized?

Prove I'm here day and night. Evidence? You're grasping for anything now, resorting to ad hominem tactics and personal jabs. My first post here still holds. This thread is actually serving the reverse of your original goal :) pat yourself on the back.


pj
 

freelight

Eclectic Theosophist
fanaticism debunked

fanaticism debunked

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It ought to be clear to those of honest inquiry, that the charge of fanaticism or cultism is a false one, at least concerning myself....since as an 'eclectic' I'm a student and investigator of many different religious traditions, spiritual paths and philosophies. One can choose to identify with or practice within the protocols of any given tradition, as well as change their orientation at any time as life leads.

The Urantia Book is as free and open a book as any other, a collection of information subject to interpretation, having meaning and value according to its own consistency, integrity and context, a work of cooperation between earthly and heavenly components. One cannot properly judge a part of the book or the whole without first reading it for themselves, to personally discover its meaning or value. Since its such a large volume, one can start with a section that interests them, and go from there. See: Index.

It's just information.

My first post here stands.

The one charching others as fanatics may be the true fanatic, unbeknownst to himself. A much more sane route would be to investigate the subject more properly, being intellectually honest with the data, then engaging an intelligent discussion of the subjects. Can GM manage that? His posts will continue to answer that question.


Enjoy,



pj
 

journey

New member
~*~*~

The one charching others as fanatics may be the true fanatic, unbeknownst to himself. A much more sane route would be to investigate the subject more properly, being intellectually honest with the data, then engaging an intelligent discussion of the subjects. Can GM manage that? His posts will continue to answer that question.

Enjoy,

pj

Most people don't spend much time in investigating a pile of manure, and that's what the urantia book is. I'm willing to spend enough time to avoid stepping in it, and that's about all.
 

TulipBee

BANNED
Banned
Total depravity is a heinous concept denying a lot of things inherently provided by God and Nature ;)



pj

Men always misunderstood God when they do everyday thinking that can't stop.

I really meant:
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" The perfect Dao is without difficulty, save that it avoids picking
and choosing. Only when you stop liking and disliking will all be
clearly understood. A split hair's difference, and heaven and earth
are set apart! If you want to get the plain truth, be not concerned
with right and wrong. The conflict between right and wrong is the
sickness of the mind."
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TulipBee

BANNED
Banned
~*~*~

It ought to be clear to those of honest inquiry, that the charge of fanaticism or cultism is a false one, at least concerning myself....since as an 'eclectic' I'm a student and investigator of many different religious traditions, spiritual paths and philosophies. One can choose to identify with or practice within the protocols of any given tradition, as well as change their orientation at any time as life leads.

The Urantia Book is as free and open a book as any other, a collection of information subject to interpretation, having meaning and value according to its own consistency, integrity and context, a work of cooperation between earthly and heavenly components. One cannot properly judge a part of the book or the whole without first reading it for themselves, to personally discover its meaning or value. Since its such a large volume, one can start with a section that interests them, and go from there. See: Index.

It's just information.

My first post here stands.

The one charching others as fanatics may be the true fanatic, unbeknownst to himself. A much more sane route would be to investigate the subject more properly, being intellectually honest with the data, then engaging an intelligent discussion of the subjects. Can GM manage that? His posts will continue to answer that question.


Enjoy,



pj

The never-learning GM is filled with LOTS of black matter.
Karma is a type of black matter that is the opposite of virtue. In Buddhism it is called sinful karma, while here we call it karma. So, we call doing bad things “producing karma.” Karma is produced by a person’s doing wrong in this life or in past lives. For instance, killing, taking advantage of others, infringing upon others’ interests, gossiping about someone behind his or her back, being unfriendly to someone, and so on can all create karma. In addition, some karma is passed on from ancestors, family and relatives, or close friends. When somebody throws punches at someone else, he also throws his white matter over to the other person, and the vacated area in his body is then filled with the black matter. Killing is the worst evildoing—it is wrong and will generate heavy karma. Karma is the primary factor that causes sickness in people. Of course, it doesn’t always manifest in the form of sickness—it can also manifest as running into problems and the like. All of these things are karma at work. So practitioners must not do anything bad. Any misconduct will result in negative influences that will seriously impact your cultivation.
 

Aimiel

Well-known member
Quite obviously, those who claim that they're seeking God, but fall for cultish nonsense like the UB, simply aren't doing so whole-heartedly.

"And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart."

God doesn't lie. He said that one would FIND Him, when they would seek Him with ALL of their heart.
 

TulipBee

BANNED
Banned
Quite obviously, those who claim that they're seeking God, but fall for cultish nonsense like the UB, simply aren't doing so whole-heartedly.

"And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart."

God doesn't lie. He said that one would FIND Him, when they would seek Him with ALL of their heart.

Right, He didn't lie. Man did seek Him but it only last a second. They all returned to thier naturalness in a second.
 

freelight

Eclectic Theosophist
principle of truth, beauty and goodness

principle of truth, beauty and goodness

Most people don't spend much time in investigating a pile of manure, and that's what the urantia book is. I'm willing to spend enough time to avoid stepping in it, and that's about all.

The papers teach the highest principles and values of truth, goodness and beauty. Having not read the papers, your demeaning estimation of them is unfounded. To devalue a work expounding the truest and highest values of philosophy and religious living, is disingenuous.

56:10.11 The existence of beauty implies the presence of appreciative creature mind just as certainly as the fact of progressive evolution indicates the dominance of the Supreme Mind. Beauty is the intellectual recognition of the harmonious time-space synthesis of the far-flung diversification of phenomenal reality, all of which stems from pre-existent and eternal oneness.

56:10.15 Even truth, beauty, and goodness—man’s intellectual approach to the universe of mind, matter, and spirit—must be combined into one unified concept of a divine and supreme ideal. As mortal personality unifies the human experience with matter, mind, and spirit, so does this divine and supreme ideal become power-unified in Supremacy and then personalized as a God of fatherly love.

56:10.16 All insight into the relations of the parts to any given whole requires an understanding grasp of the relation of all parts to that whole; and in the universe this means the relation of created parts to the Creative Whole. Deity thus becomes the transcendental, even the infinite, goal of universal and eternal attainment.

56:10.20 To finite man truth, beauty, and goodness embrace the full revelation of divinity reality. As this love-comprehension of Deity finds spiritual expression in the lives of God-knowing mortals, there are yielded the fruits of divinity: intellectual peace, social progress, moral satisfaction, spiritual joy, and cosmic wisdom. The advanced mortals on a world in the seventh stage of light and life have learned that love is the greatest thing in the universe—and they know that God is love.

56:10.21 Love is the desire to do good to others.

Paper 56 - Universal Unity



pj
 

freelight

Eclectic Theosophist
Indwelling God.....

Indwelling God.....

The never-learning GM is filled with LOTS of black matter.
Karma is a type of black matter that is the opposite of virtue. In Buddhism it is called sinful karma, while here we call it karma. So, we call doing bad things “producing karma.” Karma is produced by a person’s doing wrong in this life or in past lives. For instance, killing, taking advantage of others, infringing upon others’ interests, gossiping about someone behind his or her back, being unfriendly to someone, and so on can all create karma. In addition, some karma is passed on from ancestors, family and relatives, or close friends. When somebody throws punches at someone else, he also throws his white matter over to the other person, and the vacated area in his body is then filled with the black matter. Killing is the worst evildoing—it is wrong and will generate heavy karma. Karma is the primary factor that causes sickness in people. Of course, it doesn’t always manifest in the form of sickness—it can also manifest as running into problems and the like. All of these things are karma at work. So practitioners must not do anything bad. Any misconduct will result in negative influences that will seriously impact your cultivation.

Indeed, for the universal law is the karmic compensation of all thoughts, words and deeds, as each reaps what is sown.

Life is for learning.

Truth is ever present, no matter what form, context or language it is represented in.

1:2.7 The existence of God can never be proved by scientific experiment or by the pure reason of logical deduction. God can be realized only in the realms of human experience; nevertheless, the true concept of the reality of God is reasonable to logic, plausible to philosophy, essential to religion and indispensable to any hope of personality survival.

1:2.8 Those who know God have experienced the fact of his presence; such God-knowing mortals hold in their personal experience the only positive proof of the existence of the living God which one human being can offer to another. The existence of God is utterly beyond all possibility of demonstration except for the contact between the God-consciousness of the human mind and the God-presence of the Thought Adjuster that indwells the mortal intellect and is bestowed upon man as the free gift of the Universal Father.

Gratefully, the indwelling spirit of God within is a faithful guide, inner light, divine adjuster of thought ....orienting us along the true path.

The Thought-adjuster



pj
 

Grosnick Marowbe

New member
Hall of Fame
The never-learning GM is filled with LOTS of black matter.
Karma is a type of black matter that is the opposite of virtue. In Buddhism it is called sinful karma, while here we call it karma. So, we call doing bad things “producing karma.” Karma is produced by a person’s doing wrong in this life or in past lives. For instance, killing, taking advantage of others, infringing upon others’ interests, gossiping about someone behind his or her back, being unfriendly to someone, and so on can all create karma. In addition, some karma is passed on from ancestors, family and relatives, or close friends. When somebody throws punches at someone else, he also throws his white matter over to the other person, and the vacated area in his body is then filled with the black matter. Killing is the worst evildoing—it is wrong and will generate heavy karma. Karma is the primary factor that causes sickness in people. Of course, it doesn’t always manifest in the form of sickness—it can also manifest as running into problems and the like. All of these things are karma at work. So practitioners must not do anything bad. Any misconduct will result in negative influences that will seriously impact your cultivation.

Are you a part time Christian, part time cultist, and a part time oddball? Just wondering?
 

Grosnick Marowbe

New member
Hall of Fame
GM is happy to confess that he no longer is communicating
with cultists; Freelight and Caino (banned) I have both of
those fanatics on permanent ignore! They both had an
opportunity to make good sense, and failed miserably!
 
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