musterion
Well-known member
I own a gun!
Why?
I own a gun!
Britain is just one big idiot box, it seems. After the Paris attack, guess what Britain's remedial statement was?
~No guns~
I own a gun!
Look, it is easy, you had to learn, take a test, get licensed, get insured before you could drive a vehicle. True?
Easy!
Common sense.
Well, Elton John and his spouse did, and I'll bet that their kids will get a much better chance in life than you ever did.
Don't let homosexuals adopt children.
if they were executed, like God demands, it wouldn't be a problem
the homos, not the children :noid:
I don't see the plethora of guns in the US preventing the cop murders.
Fortunately, many Christian denominations now support same-sex marriage, and this could be the beginning of the end for more extremist Christian groups. It was Ireland that was the first country to legislate for same-sex marriage, which just shows that Christian extremism has not got long to last now.......
The Second Amendment is to protect citizens from the police.
I know that's hard for conservative America to fully understand with this current violence against police officers- they've spent so much time treating the police as a monolith that they've lost sight of why the amendment exists in the first place.
I have never heard police lumped in with tyrannical government, in Second Amendment terms, the view perverse your gun is there to protect you from law enforcement officers, enforcing the accepted laws in this Constitutional republic against crime. There's no legal precedent you're free to fire on law enforcement officers, and this neither a prescribed remedy if there are rogue, criminal police. A person has a right to self defense, but even this neither includes begging the police to shoot you, when they've issued a lawful command to desist from something. People who hate police are also fools, who don't realize they're an arm of God's societal order, without which you'd be dead meat for any criminal that comes along. Since you'd not have a safe society without them, maybe you should put a lid on waving your gun around, because there are police, and throwing out the entire baby with the bath, because of a few rogue cops. Neither have I ever known a single policeman, looking for a shootout with a law abiding citizen. Or a shootout with a crook, for that matter.
Police live with danger, and see some of the ugliest evil mankind has to offer. Stirring this pot of hatred for police you see all the time helps nothing. With this combination of circumstances, if a person had any sense they wouldn't jack around with them, in the first place, as they can't help but presume an adversarial person is just another dangerous scumbag. Of course, it would be beyond the pale, to say anything nice about the people protecting you, putting their lives on the line, for low pay a lot of places. Would that they were the heroes of the anonymous message board, doing so much more for society.
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You don't get it.
As soon as you understand that that the Brits were the police here in America, the sooner the picture will come together for you.
No, I get it. You're dead wrong. And the British were a governing body, with an army that was fought. Even those in the police capacity, during British rule, who tended to robbers or murderers, societal order, had nothing to do with the colonists' grievances. All governments, no matter how good or bad, have police that enforce criminal law. The police are not coming for you over your politics. You don't get it, are just redacting history and political science into something bizarre that is, actually, apples and oranges. When the army starts coming after you, or the Constitution is abolished, then come back and wrail against police, many of whom would be on your side, in this case. Grow up.
But it's all about who wins, I suppose. General Lee was a 'traitor', but that's not because he really was, but because he lost. How convenient that you dictate by whoever wins out.
This is becoming entertainingly bizarre. We've gone from rogue police hiding under your bed to General Lee, sans any historical context, surprise, surprise.
Nobody, in his day, said General Lee was a traitor. He was educated at West Point, which, in a gentlemanly fashion, allowed other patriots to go fight for their home state cause. People fought that war on the side of their people, most of all, weren't going to fight against their own families and the people they grew up with. This was considered the honorable thing to do, and nobody considered General Lee a traitor, then or now.
Like a lot message board people, information challenged one can only suspect, you guys just like to make things up to fight over, no nexus with reality, or even the conversation context, required. It's bizarrely amusing to behold. What next? Police of the Illuminati conspiring against you?
The 2nd Amendment is about protection from the police.
It's crystal clear, plain as day. When Malcolm X and the Black Panthers were carrying around rifles, the police didn't mess with them.
Voila, protection from tyranny. The police.
I've got news. If the government decides you're going down, you don't have a prayer against a trained tactical group. If they have warrants, you and you're whole group will go one of two ways, in cuffs or on a gurney. Citizens would neither be a match for the army. The real protection of armed citizens is in the threat of things getting so bad that it provokes widespread insurrection, civil war, but, if they didn't take out your Black Panthers, they had a reason not to, unrelated to a group of gunslingers, and it wasn't because they didn't have the power to. They'll surround you, with a sniper on all your craniums you won't even be able to see, anytime they choose to assemble the troops, know how to take down even militia groups. You're living a delusion your 38 Special, or even AR-15, protects you from government. I'd advise you stay on the right side of the law, avoid waving your gun around and becoming an item on the late news.
It's not that black and white, as people in the government would take sides as well. The government is not some singularity.
Those as yourself dreamed up that false dichotomy.
But, good job putting your neck to a boot. Maybe you should go to China since that's your thing :idunno:
if they were executed, like God demands, it wouldn't be a problem
the homos, not the children :noid: