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Brit government becoming Nazi-like
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I don't think 'brave' is the right word. We pray, we put our faith and trust in our Lord and Go.Wow!
You are all brave people .....
We go out in our weakness, we are mostly incredibly vulnerable people in the scheme of things. When we Acknowledge our weakness, we have to depend on something more powerful than ourselves. The Holy Spirit and our Lord.
Is this Canterbury in the US?
Even if there is not a Street Pastor ministry where you are, it takes one person to set things in motion. I know this because I went round the churches in our town talking about it, and seeing if there was any support. Our remit is to care, listen and help if we can. We are an interdenominational ministry, so they ask that we include at least four Christian churches in our town. We pray for each other, we pray for our town and we pray for the people we are about to meet. We don't go out to preach, but if people ask us about God then we respond.
A lady contacted me unexpectedly yesterday, I had met her a number of times over the years. She asked if she could come to church with me, we went this morning and she has asked to come again. People have asked us to pray for them, we have helped people who were going out that night to end their lives. Most of what we do is just going around encouraging kindness, we give out sweets to people of all ages, we give flip flops to girls who can no longer walk in their heels. We engage with and help the homeless. It is really all about striving to be the Good Samaritan. Just about every time we go out, People will thank us for just being there, they respect us and what we do. A number of people have said, we have helped them change their lives. We have to be doing something right.
Still didn't answer the question, Pharisee. I can see you're going out of your way to make sure the outside of your cup looks clean but you already threw a dozen curses and insults my direction, so I know you are evil when you pull this Pharisee-like bull-manure.
Are you willing to properly respond or are you afraid of becoming "unclean".
eider
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Hello again.....I don't think 'brave' is the right word. We pray, we put our faith and trust in our Lord and Go.
We go out in our weakness, we are mostly incredibly vulnerable people in the scheme of things. When we Acknowledge our weakness, we have to depend on something more powerful than ourselves. The Holy Spirit and our Lord.
Is this Canterbury in the US?
Even if there is not a Street Pastor ministry where you are, it takes one person to set things in motion. I know this because I went round the churches in our town talking about it, and seeing if there was any support. Our remit is to care, listen and help if we can. We are an interdenominational ministry, so they ask that we include at least four Christian churches in our town. We pray for each other, we pray for our town and we pray for the people we are about to meet. We don't go out to preach, but if people ask us about God then we respond.
A lady contacted me unexpectedly yesterday, I had met her a number of times over the years. She asked if she could come to church with me, we went this morning and she has asked to come again. People have asked us to pray for them, we have helped people who were going out that night to end their lives. Most of what we do is just going around encouraging kindness, we give out sweets to people of all ages, we give flip flops to girls who can no longer walk in their heels. We engage with and help the homeless. It is really all about striving to be the Good Samaritan. Just about every time we go out, People will thank us for just being there, they respect us and what we do. A number of people have said, we have helped them change their lives. We have to be doing something right.
Yes, I think that people who feel incredibly vulnerable yet who go out in to the World on their missions are very brave.
I saw that you are in the UK, but forgot to say that I am near Canterbury, Kent, UK.
I will most certainly look up ascension trust.org.uk to learn more about you all.
Ha..yes, flip flops. I am amazed about how many girls and women have injured heels feet and toes because of high heeled fashion shoes.
And homeless..... I forget how many die during January and February but the number is too high. I used to take a three day training course in London every week and didn't have much to do for two evenings, so in cold months I would take a couple of sleeping bags with me and a bag of saved pound coins and go wandering the streets. I met with some amazing people. So I know that you do too.
A mate of mine works a soup kitchen over Christmas period though New Year. He says that he never knew how wonderful a Christmas could be until he joined that operation.
Not said by Jesus nor mentioned in the Gospels.
Same-old, same-old socialist idiocy. If it doesn't work in a small country, It must work in a larger one. An oh! Did profound things happen!
Things have gotten so good in England, you've had to ban kitchen knives . . .
So, 15,000 unemployed people living on the public dole are wandering the streets late at night helping the "troubled" souls. Ever heard about the splinter and the log?
Ever yell on a public street that homosexuality is evil and leads people to hell? No? Something tells me you're one of those silent Street Pastors.
So, you drink the kool-aid and your religious activity is sponsored by the state.
So, you saw your first friendly drunken brawl and got a religious experience from it. Not really applicable to violent situations.
Aren't you one of the ones who believes that God randomly chooses people for Heaven and Hell with a cosmic lottery before the world began?
I've asked for someone' knife at least a hundred times and they have given it to me. That doesn't seem like a big deal. It must be an English thing I don't understand.
Easy. You've never been in a real conflict. You're an old man who acts as a the government's tattletale. No divine intervention needed.
eider
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You surely are.....A number of people have said, we have helped them change their lives. We have to be doing something right.
I looked at your web site.
Street, school, college, rail, response and prayer pastors plus five2 medics.
I will look out for your posts in future.
Ignoring what I said in this very thread and dodging the question isn't going to advance this discussion, Eric.
I didn't ask what intentions you don't believe He came with. I asked you what Jesus' purpose was when He did so.
Eric, are you not answering the question because you know that the answer undermines your position?
What was Jesus' purpose in coming to Earth in the flesh?
The answer, whether you choose to listen or not, was to die on the cross.
If he had given the OK o his disciples to, rightfully so, defend Him, Jesus would NOT have been able to go to the cross, thus putting His plan at risk.
Christ wasn't about to do that. Thus He told his disciples to not attack, and healed the soldier's ear.
A lesson can be learned from His actions yes, Eric. But don't forget that His goal was to go to the cross to save mankind. Having His disciples carry weapons was just a means to accomplish His goal, but it still underlines the fact that man has the inherent right to purchase, own, and even use weapons, but not only that, but TO BE SMART when using them, something you don't seem to grasp.
The lesson to be learned by the events in Gethsemane is not that weapons are bad and shouldn't be used, but that weapons have a place and a purpose, and should be used when necessary.
They are always looking for volunteers. Here is a four minute video about Canterbury Street Pastors, I think it is a good insight into what we strive to do. Thanks for your interest, you can always ask to go out as an observer with no commitments to sign up to anything. You would have to enquire about our role now due to Covid and the pubs being shut. Our towns are very subdued to what they were last year. Some ministries have felt the need to suspend patrolling through these testing times.
We do go out at our own risk and you would wear a high vis jacket saying observer. I am amazed that I have never been hurt in thirteen years, not all Street pastors will get involved in conflicts, it is our own choice to go where we feel called.
Take it to PM, please.
Please can you quote all the insults that I have made about you. As far as I know, the following has been my only direct response to you.
My apologies.
eider
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Home Secretary Patel is very right-wing in the Conservative Party. She has indeed been accused of bullying permanent secretaries etc and the countries' Head Civil Servant Resigned/retired last year because of her conduct.The British Home Secretary is telling Brits to inform on anyone they see breaking rules. This is just what the Nazi's did under Hitler. The Germans were turned into a bunch of sheep who informed on anyone they saw that they thought might be doing something wrong.
It just goes to show all the coronavirus nonsense is about creating totalitarianism. They are creating a whole nation of people so fearful that they spying on each other.
Patel Tells Britons to Inform on Neighbours if They Break Christmas Rules
Priti Patel has said that Britons should inform on their neighbours if they see them breaking coronavirus rules by havin "house parties".www.breitbart.com
Most in our Conservative Government are moderates but there are some real right-wingers.
What are you thren? A Left winger, or a bit like Home Secretary Patel..... on the far right ........ where the Nazis were?
What a laugh.
The entire British government is left-wing. I have no doubt that from your perspective, some of the people in your government appear right wing or conservative, and others left wing. But from my position ON the right, you're all a bunch of leftists.
Sorry, but no. The "National Socialist German Workers" party was a left-wing party, from the perspective of someone on the right, because socialism (yes, even all socialism) is a left wing concept.
You may not like being associated with them, but they were very much left wing.
eider
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Well at least you had a pleasant chuckle.
Your post causes me to wonder where our Labour Party might fit in to your assessment of 'all being a bunch of leftists'.
How ever did your Republican Government manage with us, I wonder?
From https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_(UK):
| The Labour Party is a centre-left political party in the United Kingdom that has been described as an alliance of social democrats, democratic socialists and trade unionists. In all general elections since 1922, Labour has been either the governing party or the Official Opposition. |
Yup. Still a bunch of leftists, and perhaps far left, at that.
No idea what you're talking about.
eider
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Ha ha! So our Labour party is a centre left party, eh?
Now, where would you like to place our Conservative party, not to the left of Labour, surely.
You seem to have strange ideas about our political spectrum, I'm afraid.
Old Etonian Boris, a lefty, and Patel a lefty. That's my turn to chuckle now.
According to Wikipedia, at least.
And at that, some more extreme than others.
From a Biblical worldview, your political spectrum is all on the left hand side of the wider spectrum of what is right and wrong.
Don't worry, most governments' political spectrums are, too. (With one or two exceptions)
eider
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You don't get it. The wiki entry is correct, Labour is Centre Left.
The Conservatives are to the right of Labour and most are very rightwing. So how you want to fit conservatives in to the Left is a touch difficult.
Biblical Worldview.??
Where do you think that Moses or Jesus fitted in.? I gotta hear this.
Except I do.
From your and the Wikipedia article's author's perspective, yes.
A--------|---------B------------------C
______x
Above is a graph of what is right and wrong, with what is right on the right, and what is wrong on the left.
Your political spectrum, in its entirety, sits at a point somewhere between A and B.
My point of view is of the entire spectrum, because I sit at C, on the right.
At C, on the graph above.