Blessing of Election !

[beloved57]

Eph 1:4-7

⁴ According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:


⁵ Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,


⁶ To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.


⁷ In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;

Hence one of the blessings of election in Christ before the foundation of the world, it is that the chosen ones have been accepted of the Father, hence in a accepted justified state with God the Father; And this again before the foundation of the world, and before Faith in time. God is well pleased with their persons, according as He chose them in Christ before the foundation, and as Paul wrote to the Corinthian Church 1 Cor 1:30

³⁰But of him [God the Father] are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:

 

[Nanja]

Eph 1:4-7

⁴ According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:


⁵ Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,


⁶ To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.


⁷ In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;

Hence one of the blessings of election in Christ before the foundation of the world, it is that the chosen ones have been accepted of the Father, hence in a accepted justified state with God the Father; And this again before the foundation of the world, and before Faith in time. God is well pleased with their persons, according as He chose them in Christ before the foundation, and as Paul wrote to the Corinthian Church 1 Cor 1:30

³⁰But of him [God the Father] are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:

All the election in Christ were always perfectly complete In Him Col. 2:10, in a Righteous state as He is; before conversion, before faith.

Because they were chosen in their Surety Heb. 7:22 they are accepted of God the Father based on their union in / with Him. In other words, all of the Legal Requirements to satisfy God's Law and Justice has been fulfilled for each one of them in their Covenant Head and Surety Rom. 5:10. So, because they were reconciled while enemies, they never came under any condemnation.

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[Robert Pate]

All the election in Christ were always perfectly complete In Him Col. 2:10, in a Righteous state as He is; before conversion, before faith.

Because they were chosen in their Surety Heb. 7:22 they are accepted of God the Father based on their union in / with Him. In other words, all of the Legal Requirements to satisfy God's Law and Justice has been fulfilled for each one of them in their Covenant Head and Surety Rom. 5:10. So, because they were reconciled while enemies, they never came under any condemnation.

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The Pharisees also thought that they were God's special chosen ones. If you want to know what Jesus thought of them read Matthew the 23rd chapter.

 

[patrick jane]

All the election in Christ were always perfectly complete In Him Col. 2:10, in a Righteous state as He is; before conversion, before faith.

Because they were chosen in their Surety Heb. 7:22 they are accepted of God the Father based on their union in / with Him. In other words, all of the Legal Requirements to satisfy God's Law and Justice has been fulfilled for each one of them in their Covenant Head and Surety Rom. 5:10. So, because they were reconciled while enemies, they never came under any condemnation.

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You and B57 are brainwashed -

 

[Bright Raven]

All the election in Christ were always perfectly complete In Him Col. 2:10, in a Righteous state as He is; before conversion, before faith.

Because they were chosen in their Surety Heb. 7:22 they are accepted of God the Father based on their union in / with Him. In other words, all of the Legal Requirements to satisfy God's Law and Justice has been fulfilled for each one of them in their Covenant Head and Surety Rom. 5:10. So, because they were reconciled while enemies, they never came under any condemnation.

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You and B57 are unsaved!

 

[Nanja]

You and B57 are brainwashed -

Not so! It's just that your blinded mind is incapable of spiritual understanding,
and all according to God's Will and Purpose.

The True Gospel of God's Grace, which was given to His Election
before the world began 2 Tim. 1:9 has been hid from you.

2 Cor 4:3-4
3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not,
lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

The True Gospel has not been revealed to you.
Your understanding [mind] is darkened Eph. 4:18.

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[patrick jane]

Not so! It's just that your blinded mind is incapable of spiritual understanding,
and all according to God's Will and Purpose.

The True Gospel of God's Grace, which was given to His Election
before the world began 2 Tim. 1:9 has been hid from you.

2 Cor 4:3-4
3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not,
lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

The True Gospel has not been revealed to you.
Your understanding [mind] is darkened Eph. 4:18.

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:rotfl:

 

[Bright Raven]

Not so! It's just that your blinded mind is incapable of spiritual understanding,
and all according to God's Will and Purpose.

The True Gospel of God's Grace, which was given to His Election
before the world began 2 Tim. 1:9 has been hid from you.

2 Cor 4:3-4
3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not,
lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

The True Gospel has not been revealed to you.
Your understanding [mind] is darkened Eph. 4:18.

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You are interpreting the passages out of context.

 

[patrick jane]

You are interpreting the passages out of context.

That's all they do - the despicable false teachings they both love -

 

[Nanja]

:rotfl:

Your laughing and disdain for the Word of God serves to witness to the darkness of your heart.

Rom. 8:9b
Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

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[patrick jane]

Your laughing and disdain for the Word of God serves to witness to the darkness of your heart.

Rom. 8:9b
Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

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I'm laughing because you use scripture out of context and you only have a handful of scriptures you debate with, all taken out of context. I'm laughing at YOU, not scripture.

 

[Nanja]

I'm laughing because you use scripture out of context and you only have a handful of scriptures you debate with, all taken out of context. I'm laughing at YOU, not scripture.

You're blinded to the Truth!

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[Nanja]

The Pharisees also thought that they were God's special chosen ones. If you want to know what Jesus thought of them read Matthew the 23rd chapter.

If the Pharisees thought they were special in God's sight because their keeping / doing of the Law then they were deceived.

Just like those in false religion today, performing works of the flesh like believing, repenting, exercising their own faith, etc. which can't please God Rom. 8:8.


But God's Special People, His Elect Rom. 8:33 were Chosen In Union with Christ to be holy and without blame before Him in Love, to have remission of sins Eph. 1:4-7. That's why they're Special, because of what the Work of Christ their Surety Heb. 7:22; Rev. 13:8; 1Pet. 1:20 accomplished on behalf of them, all the Spiritual Seed of Abraham, the Seed of Christ:

Gal. 3:16, 29
16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.


Deut. 7:6-7
6 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.
7 The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people:

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[Robert Pate]

If the Pharisees thought they were special in God's sight because their keeping / doing of the Law then they were deceived.

Just like those in false religion today, performing works of the flesh like believing, repenting, exercising their own faith, etc. which can't please God Rom. 8:8.


But God's Special People, His Elect Rom. 8:33 were Chosen In Union with Christ to be holy and without blame before Him in Love, to have remission of sins Eph. 1:4-7. That's why they're Special, because of what the Work of Christ their Surety Heb. 7:22; Rev. 13:8; 1Pet. 1:20 accomplished on behalf of them, all the Spiritual Seed of Abraham, the Seed of Christ:

Gal. 3:16, 29
16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.


Deut. 7:6-7
6 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.
7 The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people:

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You are really screwed up.

You have to deny all of those scriptures that say Jesus is the savior of the world and there are many.

And then you have to deny all of the scriptures that say that we are saved by grace through faith.

And then you are not allowed to believe that God loves everyone and is not willing that any should perish.

You have to believe that something is wrong with the Bible, so you don't trust the word of God.

Worst of all you believe that God is an unmerciful tyrant that delights in sending people to hell.

 

[Nanja]

You are really screwed up.

You have to deny all of those scriptures that say Jesus is the savior of the world and there are many.

And then you have to deny all of the scriptures that say that we are saved by grace through faith.

And then you are not allowed to believe that God loves everyone and is not willing that any should perish.

You have to believe that something is wrong with the Bible, so you don't trust the word of God.

Worst of all you believe that God is an unmerciful tyrant that delights in sending people to hell.

Because you know not the True God, neither shall you be given understanding of Him nor of His Words.

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[Robert Pate]

Because you know not the True God, neither shall you be given understanding of Him nor of His Words.

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I accept ALL of the Bible. You are not allowed to accept ALL of the Bible because it refutes your doctrine. This is very typical of a cult. They manipulate the scriptures so that it fits their false doctrine.

 

[beloved57]

I accept ALL of the Bible. You are not allowed to accept ALL of the Bible because it refutes your doctrine. This is very typical of a cult. They manipulate the scriptures so that it fits their false doctrine.

How can you say you accept all the bible when you deny the Saving death of Christ ?

 

[beloved57]

The peril of denying election !

When men deny Sovereign Particular, and unconditional election, which the bible clearly teaches, we deny God, or attempt to deny Him His absolute right to rule and govern His World, we deny that His Divine Purpose and Will is Supreme which the bible also teaches. Dan 4:35

35 And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?

Eph 1:11

In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:


This denial of election tends to rob God of His Supremacy of authority or rule as He deems fit ! Matt 20:15

Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good?

 

[Nanja]

The peril of denying election !

When men deny Sovereign Particular, and unconditional election, which the bible clearly teaches, we deny God, or attempt to deny Him His absolute right to rule and govern His World, we deny that His Divine Purpose and Will is Supreme which the bible also teaches. Dan 4:35

35 And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?

Eph 1:11

In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:


This denial of election tends to rob God of His Supremacy of authority or rule as He deems fit ! Matt 20:15

Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good?

There are many in the false religious world that are actually haters of God, and reject the scriptures that declare that God has made some some solely for the purpose of damning them for their sins Rom. 9:22, while others He had Purposed to show them Mercy Rom. 9:23 for their sins. For any person to question God's predestination of His creatures Prov. 16:4 is outright rebellion against Him Rom. 9:20-21; it's striving against Him. "Woe unto you" Is. 45:9.

 

[beloved57]

There are many in the false religious world that are actually haters of God, and reject the scriptures that declare that God has made some some solely for the purpose of damning them for their sins Rom. 9:22, while others He had Purposed to show them Mercy Rom. 9:23 for their sins. For any person to question God's predestination of His creatures Prov. 16:4 is outright rebellion against Him Rom. 9:20-21; it's striving against Him. "Woe unto you" Is. 45:9.

Amen for sure !