Blast from the past!
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You got that from Nang's awesome rebuttals. And she won't even see it.
Nang
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No, I am saying God is not the author of sin. God predestined the fate of all sinners, but the creatures caused the sin condition of corruption that kills.
I am saying that omniscient God, who knows and controls all of His creation, works only in and according to the moral light of His Being and in Him there is no darkness at all.
Just because you do not comprehend the good attributes of God, does not make me a liar for standing for His Holiness.
When speaking of sin, death, and evil we speak of the anti-thesis of Who God IS and of conditions that are totally apart from His Being. God in His foreknowledge knew that man He created out of dust would never live up to His holy standards, and so that is why His eternal will determines to save a people, according to His great grace, through the provision and mediation of Jesus the Christ, come in the same flesh as His brethren, chosen by God to inherit His Kingdom.
Jesus Christ, born a man child, was predestined by God to be made sin, in order that all faulty and guilty creatures, might receive either divine justice in hell, or divine blessings in His promised Kingdom and everlasting life.
Why attempt to make God the blame for the acts of men? Men, made in the image of God, and gifted with the moral agency to submit to the goodness of God under His moral Law, are accountable for falling short of the glory of God.
If God just made robots, with no moral ability or accountability to choose to obey, then you would have a point. God would be to blame for their malfunctions and dysfunctions . . but man was made good and immediately given the knowledge of the sovereign will of God, and the Godly commands, and was made a responsible agent with cause/effect duties.
All these matters were ordained by God to bring glory to His name, and when you deny this Truth as revealed in the Holy Scriptures, you contradict and deny God His goodness; exhibiting nothing less than lack of faith on your part.
You must repent of your unbelief . . .
You just said no, then said yes. Just like liberal democrat and re-pulbican politicians. If he predestined the fate, then he is the author of sin. Just as you declared here and will not walk back.
So you are back to him being the author of sin and evil.
Nang
TOL Subscriber
So you think . . .
But you are the one insisting God is the Author of Sin, not me. You will have to answer for this unbelief in the goodness of God Almighty, not me.
It's nothing but constant, continuous and never ending double speak from Nang.
She knows full well what she's doing. In fact, she excepts what she's doing as the very definition of faith. The more contradictions she is willing to ignore, the more pious she becomes in her own eyes. There is no escape. She is doomed.
Well, while there is life, there is hope but she has her eyes so tightly and intentionally shut, the outlook for her is bleak to say the least.
She knows full well what she's doing. In fact, she excepts what she's doing as the very definition of faith. The more contradictions she is willing to ignore, the more pious she becomes in her own eyes. There is no escape. She is doomed.
Well, while there is life, there is hope but she has her eyes so tightly and intentionally shut, the outlook for her is bleak to say the least.
Nang
TOL Subscriber
I have never accepted a contradiction to exist in the Word of God. I have studied my way through what appeared to be contradictions, and paradoxon, and always found satisfying and logical resolutions and answers through persistent bible study.
Eagles Wings
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All one has to do is read Job 1 and 2 to realize that God is Sovereign over the devil and yet not the author of sin.
Our Lord, Jesus Christ died on the Cross. This was the specific will of the Father. Sovereignty without authorship of evil.
How else can this be explained?
Our Lord, Jesus Christ died on the Cross. This was the specific will of the Father. Sovereignty without authorship of evil.
How else can this be explained?
And yet you can't put two sentences together without contradicting yourself. (See above posts)
Oh wait! Let me guess. They only "appear" to be contradictions. They aren't really contradictions they just seem like it to use mere mortals.
I rest my case.
Eagles Wings
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Yes, God foreordains everything that comes to pass - without a doubt.
Her arrogance will see her through the dark days.
I second that!
Nang
TOL Subscriber
Odd question . . ..
All Satan does is wicked, but God works good out of all things for those who love Him.
Spiritual purpose:
To make His power known. (Romans 9:17)
Nang
TOL Subscriber
That's right . . Infinite God cannot contradict Himself.
To think or state otherwise, robs God of His attributes of omniscience and omnipotence, etc.
Jeremiah 19
4 “Because they have forsaken Me and made this an alien place, because they have burned incense in it to other gods whom neither they, their fathers, nor the kings of Judah have known, and have filled this place with the blood of the innocents 5 (they have also built the high places of Baal, to burn their sons with fire for burnt offerings to Baal, which I did not command or speak, nor did it come into My mind),
You might want to rethink your opinion of God, lest you seem disqualified to the heathen.
Not if one thinks ..... "God foreordains everything that comes to pass - without a doubt".
I thought there was a time he was not wicked???
Did God create him to do good or evil?
Or, did God create him to be good at first and then be wicked later?
Strawman. You are being accused, and proven, to make contradicting statements. All in one post.