babylon the great

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chrysostom said:
mystery babylon the great of rev 17 for me is constantinople
-but
-most people and that included peter understood rome to be the city of seven hills
-it was not a mystery
-everyone knew that
-except you
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Peter was never there... so why would he understand that?

His mission was to the Jews... there were very few Jews in Rome during his lifetime. It just doesnt make sense for him to go there.

This is not a mystery to anyone but you and your church.... doesn't that make you feel a bit naive?
 
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chrysostom said:
so why did he get his name on the big church in rome?
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Imposers trying to claim his legacy... and pirate his church.

Any idiot can name a building... and it takes an even bigger idiot to actually think it means something.

They just built a huge church a couple miles from my house with Mother Theresa's name on it. Do you think she had anything to do with it?
 
Epoisses

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chrysostom said:
mystery babylon the great of rev 17 for me is constantinople
-but
-most people and that included peter understood rome to be the city of seven hills
-it was not a mystery
-everyone knew that
-except you
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The seven hills or mountains on which the woman sits are later said to be seven kings with five that are fallen, one who is and another who is not yet come. How could that possibly be literal mountains? Mountains or high places in the bible were places of worship or religious in nature so the seven kings are seven religions on which the great harlot sits.
 
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Epoisses said:
The seven hills or mountains on which the woman sits are later said to be seven kings with five that are fallen, one who is and another who is not yet come. How could that possibly be literal mountains? Mountains or high places in the bible were places of worship or religious in nature so the seven kings are seven religions on which the great harlot sits.
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the seven heads are the seven dynasties of the roman empire before it fell leaving the the byzantine empire which would last 1000 years, a christian empire, with constantinople its capital, it had seven hills, many waters, trade, it has fallen, fallen, and can be found no more
 
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chrysostom said:
the seven heads are the seven dynasties of the roman empire before it fell leaving the the byzantine empire which would last 1000 years, a christian empire, with constantinople its capital, it had seven hills, many waters, trade, it has fallen, fallen, and can be found no more
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:chuckle:
 
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babylon the great

chrysostom said:
the seven heads are the seven dynasties of the roman empire before it fell leaving the the byzantine empire which would last 1000 years, a christian empire, with constantinople its capital, it had seven hills, many waters, trade, it has fallen, fallen, and can be found no more
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Maybe....

Or it could be noted that hill is Empire.

Like Egypt
Like Assyria
Babylon
Medes and Persians... Aka Persia
Greece
Rome
Ottoman

Wait... To be the Ottomon empire it would have to have conquered Constaniople.

Hmmmmm, wait.. Ottomans did conquer Constantinople.

Well, in order to be true today the Ottomon empire would have had to fallen.

Wait... 19something.

Ok,ok, but at least the divided Ottomon empire isn't reforming under a Religion that Hates Jesus of the Cross, denies He is from the Father, beheads and seeks to claim the land of Israel.

Wait... Uh oh!

Also, um wouldn't that make it one of the seven, 8 but yet one of the Seven?

And wouldn't that mean that the loss of the caliphate was a wound.

At least Islam isn't trying to globally dominate in the name of a false God under the rule of a Calephate.

That would stink.

That would make western eschatology wrong.

Can't do that!

Uh Oh... Protestants and Catholics would have to make an uncomfortable apology to one another.

Nah... Let's stay divided. Best plan EVER!
 
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Babylon is certainly the 1st World, especially America- the leader of it. And the Idolatress on it's back is almost certainly the Catholic Church- the description of the Whore is virtually incontrovertible in Revelation.

And this is what we're seeing with the Catholic Church right now- we're seeing a lot of bargaining with atheists and heretical religions. They'll begin to unify all worldviews. And because the RCC is the largest and most influential church, with the biggest horn, it is easily capable of achieving such power.

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The Reformists wholeheartedly believed that the Roman Church was the Whore of Babylon. I would recommend all non-Catholics to look into their literature on the matter.
 
Epoisses

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Nameless.In.Grace said:
Maybe....

Or it could be noted that hill is Empire.

Like Egypt
Like Assyria
Babylon
Medes and Persians... Aka Persia
Greece
Rome
Ottoman

Wait... To be the Ottomon empire it would have to have conquered Constaniople.

Hmmmmm, wait.. Ottomans did conquer Constantinople.

Well, in order to be true today the Ottomon empire would have had to fallen.

Wait... 19something.

Ok,ok, but at least the divided Ottomon empire isn't reforming under a Religion that Hates Jesus of the Cross, denies He is from the Father, beheads and seeks to claim the land of Israel.

Wait... Uh oh!

Also, um wouldn't that make it one of the seven, 8 but yet one of the Seven?

And wouldn't that mean that the loss of the caliphate was a wound.

At least Islam isn't trying to globally dominate in the name of a false God under the rule of a Calephate.

That would stink.

That would make western eschatology wrong.

Can't do that!

Uh Oh... Protestants and Catholics would have to make an uncomfortable apology to one another.

Nah... Let's stay divided. Best plan EVER!
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The seven heads are religious in nature and the ten horns are secular. Wrong again. Church and state will rule the world.
 
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Crucible said:
Babylon is certainly the 1st World, especially America- the leader of it. And the Idolatress on it's back is almost certainly the Catholic Church- the description of the Whore is virtually incontrovertible in Revelation.

And this is what we're seeing with the Catholic Church right now- we're seeing a lot of bargaining with atheists and heretical religions. They'll begin to unify all worldviews. And because the RCC is the largest and most influential church, with the biggest horn, it is easily capable of achieving such power.

Whore_of_Babylon.jpg


The Reformists wholeheartedly believed that the Roman Church was the Whore of Babylon. I would recommend all non-Catholics to look into their literature on the matter.
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The whore of Babylon is Jerusalem. Scarlet, purple and gold were colors of the Jewish high priest.
 
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Crucible said:
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They're the colors of the Catholic high priest.
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That they stole from Judaism.

And of the blue, and purple, and scarlet, they made cloths of service, to do service in the holy place, and made the holy garments for Aaron; as the LORD commanded Moses. And he made the ephod of gold, blue, and purple, and scarlet, and fine twined linen. Ex. 39:1,2
 
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