I kinda gathered that you don't have an argument to make, or else you'd be talking about that instead of me.
I've dismissed your comments and opinions. :chuckle:
I kinda gathered that you don't have an argument to make, or else you'd be talking about that instead of me.
Bought it when it first came out. Some good stuff, but if I hear "We don't need no education!" ...wait, that's the new DeVos motto...and I've spoiled it.
"Unforeseen situations"?
Such as? Did you actually think he was serious about charging Mexico to build the thing? You've been duped by the guy before he's even in office GM, and your naivety and willingness to justify his *turnaround* by willingly footing the bill out of your own pocket is just the kind of thing he'd have been counting on.
:chuckle: I just couldn't get through all of your "Gobbledygook."
They can't. But they've been scaling back for generations. Right now it's us and some island off the Argentine coast.You're a "Brit" therefore, mind your own business.
I do. All the time. When it rains I raise a closed fist to the sky and yell, "Dad-blasted, Elizabeth, cut that out!" When the crops fail or job growth slows to a trickle I send another nasty letter to Buckingham Palace. I sometimes show up outside to ask for her birth certificate or call out loudly that I'm almost certain she's a German. That sort of thing. lain: So it's my fault that AB is up in arms and on the prowl. Or, to put it in a way that will make much more sense to you, Obama.Do we GRIPE about your Queen?
So much for fiscal responsibility, lower taxes and smaller government.
How much are you willing to pay out in extra taxes for this Grosey?
Trump's claim that his wall woudl cost $10 billion is just funny. Even the $25 billion estimate form CNBC is a joke.
First the government has to have the land to build on. Huge swatches of land along the boarder is privately owned. This means huge payouts to landowners and you just know some will refuse meaning there will be court cases and hundreds of lawyers to pay. Of course the government could just seize the land from its owners. Meaning lawsuits.
Next all that land will have to be surveyed so construction crews know what they are supposed to be building on.
Materials:
Concrete: NPR interviews several construction companies and they conservatively estimated that Trump's wall would take at minimum 2,500,000 cubic yards of concrete. Just the concrete would coast over 21 billion. Then we would need thousands of cement trucks and mixers to make and deliver the concrete to some very remote locations. That would double the cost.
Steele rebar and reinforcements. Estimated to cost only $5 billion. getting them to site another 1.5 billion.
The trucks and machinery to level and prepare the foundation maybe another $5 billion.
Of course there will have to be some intensive infrastructure investments to provide for the construction crews.
take what ever figure you can come up with and then add about 50% onto it because this is the government we are talking about.
And once the wall is done we will have to employ hundreds of workers to maintain the wall for years and years.
I don't know about you but I don't want this monster on my tax bill.
The wall won't stop a single terrorist.
town said:For eight years the president and anyone rooting for him to succeed ...
... I sometimes show up outside to ask for her birth certificate or call out loudly that I'm almost certain she's a German.
The wall won't stop a single terrorist.
If not knowing was doing you'd be a real go-getter. lain:Except that it will, we just won't know
I noted that a wall won't stop a terrorist any more than a lock stops a thief and:
Bought it when it first came out. Some good stuff, but if I hear "We don't need no education!" ...wait, that's the new DeVos motto...and I've spoiled it.
That's an interesting word choice. I mean instead of going with the completely unsupportable "unforseeable". Unforseen as in the absence of clairvoyance?
The wall won't stop a single terrorist. Unless you're going to build another across the Canadian border too. In which case it still won't stop terrorists, but it might slow down the Canadians...which would be one measurable benefit.
That just sounds like politics as usual.
The "least of these"? Sweet.
For eight years the president and anyone rooting for him to succeed has heard his birth, religion, and character questioned and disparaged like it was a cottage industry and now the right has the reigns and they think it's time for public restraint?
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i don't see it there :idunno:
and i'l bet you lock your car door when you park downtown
even though a lock doesn't stop a ....
well, you know :idunno:
Trump keeps his promises =
I don't think anyone ever actually expected Mexico was going to foot the bill. Trump simply got a bit carried away with that part of it, there's still no justification for trying to make him out to be 'breaking a campaign promise'.
In fact, it just sounds desperate. Have some self respect, liberals. If you even care about such a thing, which is questionable after the past several years
I happen to agree with you. Of course, the wall won't be a "Stand alone" protection against undesirables. We'll still need armed guards stationed along the wall. I'm also certain there will be some form of electric fencing at the top of the wall. It definitely will make it more difficult to cross the border and some will not be willing to make the effort if they have all of those hoops to go through.
You're a PESSIMIST!
For every 160 people in the UK, there is an illegal immigrant.
VS
For every 16 Americans, there is an illegal immigrant.
There is no debate, you all fail libs :wave2: