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glorydaz

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You're the first that answered my question

OK u wanna say bible is infallible and will remain so even we discover that some of its verses contradict science I mean u wanna tell me that even if we find some verses against science in actuality we have understood them improperly and we have to change our interpretations

I infer that bible in your views will remain infallible even we find it's not???

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Golly....a gangsta' talkin' Muslim. :chew:
 

Hassan.gh

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The Koran is wicked and evil, and Mohammed is a child molesting pervert. Come at me "bro".

The Bible says the earth is a sphere suspended in space.
Have u ever read the Koran?

Besides the age of that girl isn't something that our scholars have a consensus on it
And even if we accept that age marriage in this kind was practiced throughout Arab peninsula even in this time



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beameup

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Jewish scribes were used in the writing of the Koran because Mohammed was illiterate.
So, "the people of the book" - Hebrews - utilized the Old Hebrew writings in creating the Koran.
The Old Hebrew writings are called the "Old Testament" or the "Tanakh" by Jews.
I'm certain that you would find a lot of commonality between the Koran and the "Old Testament".
 

Angel4Truth

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Hi
I'm a Muslim and perhaps u know that the holy Koran is considered among Muslims as infallible and a miracle.
My question is do u believe such things about bible too?

Infallible, as given by God, yes.

I saw some debates between atheists that bible says earth is flat or earth is created 6000 years ago

What do atheists have to do with christian beliefs?

It's as clear as day that these statements contradict science .

Science
contradicts the atheists view, and the Muslims view too. "Allah created the heavens and the earth, and all that is between them, in six days" (7:54).

In other words, the Quran, uses the same phrase for creation, as the word of God, the Holy Bible, in Genesis. (which came before Muhammad) Except it calls God, allah, which is not His name, yet is just the word in Arabic, for "god".

So do u believe that the whole bible is infallible and from God or some parts of it is man made?

You are asking what you already asked before, again.
 

Angel4Truth

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Please send me the verse

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Isaiah 40:22
It is He who sits above the circle of the earth, And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers, Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.


The word translated as circle, in the hebrew, is sphere. Which is what the earth is.

this verse also explains the earth is suspended in the heavens, not contained on something else.

Job 26:7 "He stretches out the north over empty space And hangs the earth on nothing.
 

Hassan.gh

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Infallible, as given by God, yes.



What do atheists have to do with christian beliefs?



Science
contradicts the atheists view, and the Muslims view too. "Allah created the heavens and the earth, and all that is between them, in six days" (7:54).

In other words, the Quran, uses the same phrase for creation, as the word of God, the Holy Bible, in Genesis. (which came before Muhammad) Except it calls God, allah, which is not His name, yet is just the word in Arabic, for "god".



You are asking what you already asked before, again.
Day in Arabic has some meaning and here means era
And tell me is earth flat or not?
U can answer clearly

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Hassan.gh

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And my proof about the meaning of day here is that in another verse Allah says we created the earth in two days

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Angel4Truth

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Have u ever read the Koran?

Besides the age of that girl isn't something that our scholars have a consensus on it
And even if we accept that age marriage in this kind was practiced throughout Arab peninsula even in this time
I see taqiyya going on, and yes ive read the quran. How many wives do you have btw and how many do you beat when they displease you?
 

Angel4Truth

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Day in Arabic has some meaning and here means era
And tell me is earth flat or not?
U can answer clearly

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Youve already been answered.

Please send me the verse

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Isaiah 40:22
It is He who sits above the circle of the earth, And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers, Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.


The word translated as circle, in the hebrew, is sphere. Which is what the earth is.

this verse also explains the earth is suspended in the heavens, not contained on something else.

Job 26:7 "He stretches out the north over empty space And hangs the earth on nothing.
 

Angel4Truth

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Please send me the verse

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Hahaha
I'm still single and I'm not Arab
And I don't do that

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You will if you follow the Quran correctly, because you said you read it in arabic and in arabic, it demands a man beat his wife into submission.

In arabic, its much more harsh than in english.

Simply because I think bible is a translation of original book so I will never find the truth by reading it but I know Arabic so I can read the Koran

Weird then that you would use the word Koran instead of Quran or even القرآن الكريم
 

Hassan.gh

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Well since i quoted the Quran, (6 days) are you telling us it contradicts itself?
I'm that verse god says about heaven and earth but in the verse I told u about it's just about earth and it really is according to science if we consider the age of universe 14 billion years

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Angel4Truth

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I'm that verse god says about heaven and earth but in the verse I told u about it's just about earth and it really is according to science if we consider the age of universe 14 billion years

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Im not convinced you know the Quran:

Chapter Name:Al-Araf Verse No:54

إِنَّ رَبَّكُمُ اللّهُ الَّذِي خَلَقَ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالأَرْضَ فِي سِتَّةِ أَيَّامٍ ثُمَّ اسْتَوَى عَلَى الْعَرْشِ يُغْشِي اللَّيْلَ النَّهَارَ يَطْلُبُهُ حَثِيثًا وَالشَّمْسَ وَالْقَمَرَ وَالنُّجُومَ مُسَخَّرَاتٍ بِأَمْرِهِ أَلاَ لَهُ الْخَلْقُ وَالأَمْرُ تَبَارَكَ اللّهُ رَبُّ الْعَالَمِينَ {54

007:054 Khan
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Indeed your Lord is Allah, Who created the heavens and the earth in Six Days, and then He Istawa (rose over) the Throne (really in a manner that suits His Majesty). He brings the night as a cover over the day, seeking it rapidly, and (He created) the sun, the moon, the stars subjected to His Command. Surely, His is the Creation and Commandment. Blessed be Allah, the Lord of the 'Alamin (mankind, jinns and all that exists)!

007:054 Maulana
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Surely your Lord is Allah, Who created the heavens and the earth in six periods, and He is established on the Throne of Power. He makes the night cover the day, which it pursues incessantly. And (He created) the sun and the moon and the stars, made subservient by His command. Surely His is the creation and the command. Blessed is Allah, the Lord of the worlds!

007:054 Pickthal
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Lo! your Lord is Allah Who created the heavens and the earth in six Days, then mounted He the Throne. He covereth the night with the day, which is in haste to follow it, and hath made the sun and the moon and the stars subservient by His command. His verily is all creation and commandment. Blessed be Allah, the Lord of the Worlds!

007:054 Rashad
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Your Lord is the one GOD, who created the heavens and the earth in six days, then assumed all authority. The night overtakes the day, as it pursues it persistently, and the sun, the moon, and the stars are committed to serve by His command. Absolutely, He controls all creation and all commands. Most Exalted is GOD, Lord of the universe.

007:054 Sarwar
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Your Lord is God who established His dominion over the Throne (of the realm) after having created the heavens and the earth in six days. He made the night darken the day which it pursues at a (considerable) speed and He made the sun and the moon submissive to His command. Is it not He Who creates and governs all things? Blessed is God, the Cherisher of the Universe.

007:054 Shakir
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Surely your Lord is Allah, Who created the heavens and the earth in six periods of time, and He is firm in power; He throws the veil of night over the day, which it pursues incessantly; and (He created) the sun and the moon and the stars, made subservient by His command; surely His is the creation and the command; blessed is Allah, the Lord of the worlds.

007:054 Sherali
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Surely, your Lord is ALLAH, who created the heavens and the earth in six periods, then HE settled Himself firmly on the Throne. HE makes the night cover the day, which it pursues swiftly, And HE created the sun and the moon and the stars - all made subservient by HIS command. Verily, HIS is the creation and the command. Blessed is ALLAH, Lord of the worlds.

007:054 Yusufali
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Your Guardian-Lord is Allah, Who created the heavens and the earth in six days, and is firmly established on the throne (of authority): He draweth the night as a veil o'er the day, each seeking the other in rapid succession: He created the sun, the moon, and the stars, (all) governed by laws under His command. Is it not His to create and to govern? Blessed be Allah, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds!

Seems you are at odds with what it says.
 

Hassan.gh

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You will if you follow the Quran correctly, because you said you read it in arabic and in arabic, it demands a man beat his wife into submission.

In arabic, its much more harsh than in english.



Weird then that you would use the word Koran instead of Quran or even القرآن الكريم
Not at all

If a man beats his wife so that her skin becomes red or changes its color u he has committed a sin and ha has to say some money to her

Besides beating wife is the last way and is considered as punishment for a wife that disobey her husband in sextual relationship according to what I said



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