Abortion///cont.

[Town Heretic]

Bias duly noted.

A bias for rationality, expressed in reason, is no public sin. A bias without it is no virtue.

Now try the argument.

Does the SCOTUS have the authority to overrule (if that's the right term?) a previous SCOTUS's decision?

It does and will, though comparatively rarely given consideration of precedent. Anti-miscegenation laws were once upheld by the Court because, it reasoned, they applied to both whites and blacks. It fell, but eighty something years later, in the 1960s.

 

[ok doser]

And to you and yours. :cheers:

Though I was not personally offended by your words.

i'm offended that you weren't offended :carryon:

 

[kmoney]

That does not make sense. The willingness of the parents to be parents does not determine whether they are parents.

Would the same hold true of a newborn? If a mother and father decide they do not wish to be parents of a newborn, are they no longer the parents of that newborn?

bump for quip

 

[glassjester]

bump for quip

He will not address the apparent fallacy of his position.

 

[quip]

bump for quip

That does not make sense. The willingness of the parents to be parents does not determine whether they are parents.

Not necessarily so...as long as the would-be mom is permitted the freedom of choice i.e. no fetus, no parenthood.

Not sure why this was so difficult to fathom. :idunno:

 

[quip]

Now try the argument.

Plenty of reason for right-expropriation.
Little in the way of argumentation.

 

[ok doser]

That does not make sense. The willingness of the parents to be parents does not determine whether they are parents.

Not necessarily so...as long as the would-be mom is permitted the freedom of choice i.e. no fetus, no parenthood.

Not sure why this was so difficult to fathom. :idunno:

because you didn't specify that she acted on her willingness and killed her child

now, if a woman who is willing to have a child loses it in utero, is she still a parent?

the woman in alberta who killed her 11 day old child - is she still a parent?

of course

 

[Eagles Wings]

He will not address the apparent fallacy of his position.

Quip addresses it and embraces it.

I wonder if he rejoices when a woman decides kill her preborn child.

Down with parenthood, up with female reproductive rights.

I've seen people holding signs with this sentiment.

Was that you I saw, quip?

 

[quip]

because you didn't specify that she acted on her willingness and killed her child.

Willful ignorance?

What was the subject of the thread you reopened?

 

[Eagles Wings]

How many post-abortive women have you consoled, quip?

Many fathers suffer with PTSD after the abortion of their child.

Quip, et. al., are you helping these people come to grips with what they have done?

Then you have the gall to say my God created a world of suffering.

 

[ok doser]

Then you have the gaul to say ....

he must be french

 

[ok doser]

Willful ignorance?

doesn't matter, it's been refuted

the circumstances around the death of a child are irrelevant in this case

there's always a pair of parents

 

[Eagles Wings]

he must be french

lol...I don't know what's the matter with me lately with spelling and grammar.

 

[quip]

there's always a pair of parents

What does that serve....beyond your petty argument, that is?

 

[glassjester]

What does that serve....beyond your petty argument, that is?

You acknowledge, then, that the fetus has biological parents? Good.

So why do you believe that the parents of the fetus should be allowed to kill their child, while the parents of the 11-day-old should not?

 

[ok doser]

So why do you believe that the parents of the fetus should be allowed to kill their child...

i suspect he would deny that right to the father

 

[glassjester]

i suspect he would deny that right to the father

It's almost as if the pro-abortion folks are trying to be as logically inconsistent as possible. :think:

 

[quip]

You acknowledge, then, that the fetus has biological parents? Good.

So why do you believe that the parents of the fetus should be allowed to kill their child, while the parents of the 11-day-old should not?

So, that's the angle you're playing at here? Otherwise your answer should be obvious.

 

[glassjester]

So, that's the angle you're playing at here? Otherwise your answer should be obvious.

What's the "obvious" answer? That you don't think a fetus looks cute?

 

[ok doser]

he's willing to deny the fetus the right to live in order to accommodate the mother's right not to be inconvenienced

because selfishness