ECT A warning to born-again believers who are sinning habitually

john w

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● Jesus said, “He who (really) loves Me will obey My commandments.”
Loving God is one of the 2 qualifying conditions for a person to be
foreordained, predestined, called, justified, and glorified (Romans 8:28-30).

How many commandments must one obey, to be considered one, who, obviously like you, "loves...Jesus?"


Specifics.


You self righteous fraud, poser, son of Cain.


Get off this site, child of the devil, with your satanic dung.
 

God's Truth

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Abraham only had circumcision .
Gen 17:13 He that is born in your house, and he that is bought with your silver, must be circumcised. And My covenant shall be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant.
Gen 17:14 And the uncircumcised male child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he has broken My covenant.

by faith

That is your rebuttal to my saying Abraham obeyed God and that circumcision was a sign of a covenant?

Read this scripture and see why Abraham received from God what he did:


Genesis 22:18 and through your offspring all nations on earth will be blessed, because you have obeyed me."

Did you read that?


Genesis 26:4-5I will make your descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and will give them all these lands, and through your offspring all nations on earth will be blessed, because Abraham obeyed me and kept my requirements, my commands, my decrees and my laws."


Rom 3:28 For we hold that one is justified by faith apart from works of the law.

Rom 4:13 For the promise to Abraham and his offspring that he would be heir of the world did not come through the law but through the righteousness of faith.
...it's about circumcision. It's about not of circumcision.
 

God's Truth

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We are given the spirit of God not the law.

Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
Rom 8:15 For you have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you have received the Spirit of adoption by which we cry, Abba, Father!

The Spirit of God is given to those who obey.
When we are saved the new law is written on our hearts.
 

way 2 go

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That is your rebuttal to my saying Abraham obeyed God and that circumcision was a sign of a covenant?

Read this scripture and see why Abraham received from God what he did:


Genesis 22:18 and through your offspring all nations on earth will be blessed, because you have obeyed me."

Did you read that?


Genesis 26:4-5I will make your descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and will give them all these lands, and through your offspring all nations on earth will be blessed, because Abraham obeyed me and kept my requirements, my commands, my decrees and my laws."

Abram was declared righteous by faith not by any works that he did.

Gen 15:6 And he believed the LORD, and he counted it to him as righteousness.
 

steko

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Abram was declared righteous by faith not by any works that he did.

Gen 15:6 And he believed the LORD, and he counted it to him as righteousness.

Right:

Rom 4:3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.
Rom 4:4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.
Rom 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

Rom 4:9 Cometh this blessedness then upon the circumcision only, or upon the uncircumcision also? for we say that faith was reckoned to Abraham for righteousness.
Rom 4:10 How was it then reckoned? when he was in circumcision, or in uncircumcision? Not in circumcision, but in uncircumcision.
Rom 4:11 And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also:

Rom 4:22 And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness.
Rom 4:23 Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him;
Rom 4:24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;
Rom 4:25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.

Rom 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:


 
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God's Truth

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Abram was declared righteous by faith not by any works that he did.

Gen 15:6 And he believed the LORD, and he counted it to him as righteousness.

Abraham's faith was alive because he believed and obeyed.

James 2:20 You foolish man, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless? 21 Was not our ancestor Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22 You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did
 

God's Truth

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No.

you give no evidence , so neither will I


Acts 5:32 We are witnesses of these things, and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to those who obey him."

John 14:23 Jesus replied, "Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them.

John 14:21 The person who has my commandments and obeys them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and will reveal myself to him."
 

ZacharyB

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You and GT are two pigs in the same poke...working for salvation. Work away......
The only working we're doing is being obedient!
Obedient to the word, and obedient to Jesus' commandments!
This has nothing to do with good works, good deeds, etc.
Have a nice day ... hope it's bright enough for you to see the light.
 

ZacharyB

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Abraham's faith was alive because he believed and obeyed.

James 2:20 You foolish man, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless? 21 Was not our ancestor Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22 You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did
Yes, Abram's faith was not enough ... he also was obedient.
True faith results in obedience!
Today's church does not understand this.
And they don't want to.

The pastors are to blame for not being real shepherds.
An excerpt from one of the Father's warnings ...
to one of His prophets and watchmen (of which there are many):
"shepherds leading multitudes to hell".
 

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The only working we're doing is being obedient!
Obedient to the word, and obedient to Jesus' commandments!
Are you keeping the law of Moses as Jesus commanded?

Mat 23:1-3 KJV Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples, (2) Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: (3) All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.


 
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