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SaulToPaul 2
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SaulToPaul 2
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dodge
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Have you been to the Clinton school of it depends on what is is ?
If folks are NOT in the B.O.C. they are lost and heading for hell. There is not nor has there ever been two plans to receive eternal life with God. That is why scripture teaches that Jesus was the Lamb of God which takes away the sins of the world, and in that sense(world) it meant everyone who placed their faith in Him.
Scripture only teaches "ONE" body of Christ, and those not in that body are heading for hell.
Nang
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One of the most disgusting things ever taught to us while in a Dispensational church, was done using a graph of circles, depicting Christ in the center of the circles (His heavenly kingdom.)
This crazy teacher drew an inner circle positioned close around Jesus, who were the souls saved in the so-called "dispensation of grace" who were given the privilege of being nearest to God . . . similar to MAD's conception of the limited BOC.
But there were outer circles of souls saved, who were not part of the inner circle, nor sitting next to Jesus in His heavenly Kingdom. They were the less blessed. They were Jews in the furthest circle away from Christ, on earth in their own kingdom.
Ugh!
One of the final reasons we fled that assembly . . .
This crazy teacher drew an inner circle positioned close around Jesus, who were the souls saved in the so-called "dispensation of grace" who were given the privilege of being nearest to God . . . similar to MAD's conception of the limited BOC.
But there were outer circles of souls saved, who were not part of the inner circle, nor sitting next to Jesus in His heavenly Kingdom. They were the less blessed. They were Jews in the furthest circle away from Christ, on earth in their own kingdom.
Ugh!
One of the final reasons we fled that assembly . . .
SaulToPaul 2
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:chuckle:
SaulToPaul 2
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You don't understand.
:IA: NO! I'll tell you what to think!
dodge
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lol, kinda like when MADist ignore everything except what they want everyone to think.
- world does not mean world.
- whosoever does not mean whosoever.
- one body means one of many bodies.
- Paul saying others were in Christ before him does not actually mean that because
he taught the mystery that the other Apostles did not know.
- the 3000 that became part of the B.O.C. in Acts 2 and the 5000 in ACTS 4 does
not actually mean they were in the B.O.C..
in the body of Christ even though they were saved.
- and the very best deception is how they make two gospels out of one with one
applying to gentiles and one applying to the Jews.
- Paul teaching repentance (Acts 20:21) does not mean repent.
Like that is what you mean right telling others what to think ?
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Body part
And yet you don't bother to point to even one.....
musterion
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That's Calvinists.
That's Calvinists.
No, one Body.
That's what he said.
Exclusive club, preaching to none but Jews only...no Gentiles.
That's what he said.
He taught it. It means change of mind. The problem is your false definition.
Act 1:5 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.
Act 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
Act 1:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
Act 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
Act 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
Act 1:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
Act 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
I would be happy if folks would simply think.
dodge
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EXACTLY how do you figure John 3:16 is Calvinist ?
John 3:16 for God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believes will not perish but have ever lasting life.
Believing "whosoever" exactly as John 3:16 is Calvinism ?
There is only ONE body that makes any difference and that is the B.O.C..
The same message was brought to both Jews and Gentiles by two very different Apostles.
God knew what He was doing !
There were no exclusive clubs ! There was, is, and will always be one B.O.C. those in that body are saved and those not in the B.O.C. are lost.
Others were in the B.O.C. before Paul because they heard the only gospel that saves.
Changing the meaning of repentance is so MADist can ignore the teachings of Jesus on repentance by claiming, falsely, that Jesus was to and for only Israel.
Repentance is turning from sin to God.
You are right.
Jesus was the first Body of Christ, and He was added to beginning in Acts ch 2 as ch 1 said would occur--
Act 1:4 And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me.
Act 1:5 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.
LA
dodge
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Typical non-answer !
Jerry Shugart
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Do you deny that the "good news" that Paul preached at 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 saved those who believed it?
Do you deny that the "good news" that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, saved those who believed it (Jn.20:31;1 Jn.5:1-5)?
Of course those facts cannot be denied. And that is TWO instances of "good news"(gospel) which saves.
dodge
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There is only one Jesus and only one gospel about the Christ that saves anyone from hell.
Eph 5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
Eph 5:24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
Eph 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
Eph 5:26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
Eph 5:27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
Eph 5:28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.
Eph 5:29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:
Eph 5:30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
Eph 5:31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
Eph 5:32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
Eph 5:33 Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.
Eph 5:24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
Eph 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
Eph 5:26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
Eph 5:27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
Eph 5:28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.
Eph 5:29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:
Eph 5:30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
Eph 5:31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
Eph 5:32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
Eph 5:33 Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.