A Justified Acquitted World !

beloved57

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John 1:29

The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

This is also the World John writes of in his Epistle when writing of the propitiation of Christ taking away our Sins 1 Jn 2:2

2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

1 Jn 3:5

And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.

1 Jn 4:10

Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.


Now being the propitiation for our sins, and taking them away are one and the same. His Death was that satisfaction to Gods Law and Justice to take away our sins, and that could not be the case if were not absolved of, acquitted from, justified from them all before God. Doesn't the resurrection of Christ testify the same Rom 4:25

Who [The Lamb of God] was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for[because of] our justification.

So that World in Jn 1:29 is a Justified world with no sin charged to it 2 Cor 5:19 because they've been taken away, so it cant apply to all without exception ! Some will yet die in their sins Jn 8:21,24
 
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A Justified Acquitted World ! 2

The word Justification is Rom 4:25, He was raised again for our Justification, its the greek word dikaiosis and means:

acquittal, a process of absolution.

This results of all sins being taken away Jn 1:29 and Christ's resurrection is an testification of that fact.
 
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beloved57 said:
John 1:29

The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

This is also the World John writes of in his Epistle when writing of the propitiation of Christ taking away our Sins 1 Jn 2:2

2 [FONT=&]And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

1 Jn 3:5

[/FONT][FONT=&]And ye know that he was manifested to take [/FONT]away our sins; and in him is no sin.

1 Jn 4:10

[FONT=&]Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the [/FONT]propitiation for our sins.


Now being the propitiation for our sins, and taking them away are one and the same. His Death was that satisfaction to Gods Law and Justice to take away our sins, and that could not be the case if were not absolved of, acquitted from, justified from them all before God. Doesn't the resurrection of Christ testify the same Rom 4:25

[FONT=&]Who [The Lamb of God] was delivered for our offences, and was [/FONT]raised again for[because of] our justification.

So that World in Jn 1:29 is a Justified world with no sin charged to it 2 Cor 5:19 because they've been taken away, so it cant apply to all without exception ! Some will yet die in their sins Jn 8:21,24
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Many will die in their sins because they refuse to call on Christ to save them.
"Whosoever that shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved" Romans 10:13.
Instead they want God to predestinate them, so that they don't have to call on Christ.
 
beloved57

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Robert Pate said:
Many will die in their sins because they refuse to call on Christ to save them.
"Whosoever that shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved" Romans 10:13.
Instead they want God to predestinate them, so that they don't have to call on Christ.
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You teach that sinners Christ died for and took away their sins shall still die in their sins.

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beloved57 said:
[h=2]A Justified Acquitted World ! 2[/h]
The word Justification is Rom 4:25, He was raised again for our Justification, its the greek word dikaiosis and means:

acquittal, a process of absolution.

This results of all sins being taken away Jn 1:29 and Christ's resurrection is an testification of that fact.
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Amen to both parts!

And this Justified Acquitted World is the same World of Christ's Sheep whose sins were laid to His charge Is. 53:6 as their Surety Head and Representative from Everlasting Heb. 7:22. And His resurrection as The Great Shepherd of the Sheep Heb. 13:20 was a testification that God was propitiated on behalf of all of them, being legally discharged from all sin, because of their being chosen In Union with Him in Eternity Eph. 1:4-7. And that was before they ever come to Believe on Him or call upon His Name!
 
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Nanja said:
Amen to both parts!

And this Justified Acquitted World is the same World of Christ's Sheep whose sins were laid to His charge Is. 53:6 as their Surety Head and Representative from Everlasting Heb. 7:22. And His resurrection as The Great Shepherd of the Sheep Heb. 13:20 was a testification that God was propitiated on behalf of all of them, being legally discharged from all sin, because of their being chosen In Union with Him in Eternity Eph. 1:4-7. And that was before they ever come to Believe on Him or call upon His Name!
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Amen Sister!

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beloved57 said:
You teach that sinners Christ died for are still lost!
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that whoever believes in him


Joh 3:15 that whoever believes in him may have eternal life.

Joh 3:16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
 
beloved57

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The World of 2 Cor 5:19 is the same World John writes of Jn 1:29. Now the citizens of the World of 2 Cor 5:19, God does not charge them with any of their sins ! Therefore its an acquitted / Justified World !



 
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2Cor. 5:19 builds on other verses in the chapter like:

For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. 2Cor. 5:10

For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead: And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again. 2Cor. 14,15

Typical Calvinist unbelief in Christ as the savior of all men in all the world.
 
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beloved57 said:
The World of 2 Cor 5:19 is the same World John writes of Jn 1:29. Now the citizens of the World of 2 Cor 5:19, God does not charge them with any of their sins ! Therefore its an acquitted / Justified World !
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Absolutely Brother, because this World was reconciled to God while being enemies and unbelievers!

Rom. 5:10
For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Therefore, this Reconciled World was Justified by Christ's Blood from Everlasting Rom. 5:9; Is. 53:6; Rev. 13:8, meaning no sin was imputed to the citizens of this Blessed World.

Rom. 4:6-8

6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,

7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.

8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
 
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Nanja said:
Absolutely Brother, because this World was reconciled to God while being enemies and unbelievers!

Rom. 5:10
For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Therefore, this Reconciled World was Justified by Christ's Blood from Everlasting Rom. 5:9; Is. 53:6; Rev. 13:8, meaning no sin was imputed to the citizens of this Blessed World.

Rom. 4:6-8

6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,

7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.

8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
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Jesus did not die for individuals or specific sins on the cross. Judaism and Catholicism have filled the world with the idea that sin is something we do or 'bad deeds'. Sin is in reality a fallen and carnal nature where everything we do, good and bad is sin. This is why so many religious people are condemned by God because they think they are righteous because of their good deeds. Christ died on the cross as a corporate man or 2nd Adam where he was shackled with fallen humanity. He was not dying for specific individuals and ignoring others as your religion blindly asserts. He made one blanket offering for sin that covered everybody.
 
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What is the purpose of hell, then? And is anyone going there?


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Hell is for unbelievers who refuse to believe that Jesus died for everyone when it is said over and over and over. All Christians universally (Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox) believe that Christ died for the whole world except for Calvinists. They are the only ones who reject this truth showing that their faith is in man not God.
 
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Epoisses said:
Hell is for unbelievers who refuse to believe that Jesus died for everyone when it is said over and over and over. All Christians universally (Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox) believe that Christ died for the whole world except for Calvinists. They are the only ones who reject this truth showing that their faith is in man not God.
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Thank you for the answer. I sincerely appreciate the response.


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If Christ was delivered for our offences, then rest assured He was raised for our Justification Rom 4:25

Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.

Thats because His death for us did put away our sins, and effected a full Justification for us ! If this be not the case His death was in vain, having not secured upon us our Justification before God. Paul writes to the Corinthians, if Christ be not risen, after having died for our sins, then we must be still in our sins 1 Cor 15:17

17And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins

And so Christ being risen certifies we are not in our sins, and Faith gives conscious assurance of that !
 
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Epoisses said:
Hell is for unbelievers who refuse to believe that Jesus died for everyone when it is said over and over and over. All Christians universally (Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox) believe that Christ died for the whole world except for Calvinists. They are the only ones who reject this truth showing that their faith is in man not God.
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No, hell is for those who don't believe, who don't have faith and all those who don't live by the will of God, Jesus said that those who enter the kingdom of heaven are those who do the will of the father.

Hell is being separated from God, and those who don't live by his will are those who will be separated from his light being in darkness.
 
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beloved57 said:
If Christ was delivered for our [FONT="] offences, then rest assured He was raised for our Justification Rom 4:25

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[FONT=Helvetica Neue, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][COLOR=#000000]Thats because His death for us did put away our sins, and effected a full Justification for us ! If this be not the case His death was in vain, having not secured upon us our Justification before God. Paul writes to the Corinthians, if Christ be not risen, after having died for our sins, then we must be still in our sins 1 Cor 15:17

[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial][B]17[/B][/FONT][/COLOR][B]And if Christ be not raised[/B][FONT=Helvetica Neue, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][COLOR=#000000], your faith is vain; [/COLOR][/FONT][B]ye are yet in your sins[/B][FONT=Helvetica Neue, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][COLOR=#000000].[/COLOR][/FONT]

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Exactly! And it's not a man's own faith that makes it so, but it's revealed to God Given Faith Gal. 5:22; that by Christ's resurrection, those He died and rose for have total remission of sins Luke 1:77; Rom. 5:1.

Heb. 13:20-21
20 Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant, 21 Make you perfect in every good work to do his will, working in you that which is wellpleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
 
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