ECT 2P2P forgot to tell us there were 2 gospels in Gal 3:8

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While the text is clear about how the gospel was explained to Abraham and can be captured in the 'all nations will be blessed through your Seed', we have to mention that 2P2P sees 2 gospels here, just like everywhere that the gospel is mentioned in the AAL.

Don't you see it? There's actually 2 gospels there. Come on, anyone can see that there's two!
 
SaulToPaul 2

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While the text is clear about how the gospel was explained to Abraham and can be captured in the 'all nations will be blessed through your Seed', we have to mention that 2P2P sees 2 gospels here, just like everywhere that the gospel is mentioned in the AAL.

Don't you see it? There's actually 2 gospels there. Come on, anyone can see that there's two!
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You still have not gone back to Genesis and compared Abraham in circumcision versus Abraham in uncircumcision have you?

Lazy.
 
Jerry Shugart

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Come on, anyone can see that there's two!
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Are you really this dense?

The "good news" which was preached to Abraham was that through him will all the nations of the earth be blessed.

Do you really think that believing that "good news" saves anyone?

When you attempt to bring the unsaved to salvation is that what you preach to them? Do you say, "Believe the gospel that declares that it is through Abraham that all the nations will be blessed and you will be saved"?

If you do then you prove that you know absolutely nothing about the gospel which we are to preach today--the gospel which declares that believers are "justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus" (Ro.3:24).
 
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You still have not gone back to Genesis and compared Abraham in circumcision versus Abraham in uncircumcision have you?

Lazy.
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Hi and since he did not see that Gen 12:1-3 , IP shlould see that there is a difference between ABRAM and ABRAHAM as he calls himself GREEK SCHOLAR !

Gal 3:8 , he is called ABRAM !!

Gal 3:8 really speaks too those during the Millennial Kingdom as the MYSTERY was HIDDEN in God , Rom 16:25 !!

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You still have not gone back to Genesis and compared Abraham in circumcision versus Abraham in uncircumcision have you?

Lazy.
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Why is anyone in the whole Christian church supposed to go back and get mucked up by your theories when Paul explains everything? I cannot believe you call yourself Christian and overrule Paul or the apostles as taught by Christ. Where is the clear simple explanation of what you are after in Paul or the apostles? Why do we need you? Why do we need your theories with the NT in our hands? Why do you never relate what you are saying even on this topic to THIS PASSAGE--Rom 4? Why do you never relate what you are saying to Atonement fulfilled in Christ to Heb 10?
 
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Jerry Shugart said:
Are you really this dense?

The "good news" which was preached to Abraham was that through him will all the nations of the earth be blessed.

Do you really think that believing that "good news" saves anyone?

When you attempt to bring the unsaved to salvation is that what you preach to them? Do you say, "Believe the gospel that declares that it is through Abraham that all the nations will be blessed and you will be saved"?

If you do then you prove that you know absolutely nothing about the gospel which we are to preach today--the gospel which declares that believers are "justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus" (Ro.3:24).
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You are dense, Jerry. Paul said he was talking about the righteousness that is credited, and Abraham saw the day of Christ who is the Melkizedian priest. Not Aaronic.
 
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Why is anyone in the whole Christian church supposed to go back and get mucked up by your theories when Paul explains everything? I cannot believe you call yourself Christian and overrule Paul or the apostles as taught by Christ. Where is the clear simple explanation of what you are after in Paul or the apostles? Why do we need you? Why do we need your theories with the NT in our hands? Why do you never relate what you are saying even on this topic to THIS PASSAGE--Rom 4? Why do you never relate what you are saying to Atonement fulfilled in Christ to Heb 10?
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You still have not gone back to Genesis and compared Abraham in circumcision versus Abraham in uncircumcision have you?

Lazy.
 
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SaulToPaul said:
You totally missed Jerry's point.
Maybe you aren't the genius you claim to be.
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Not at all. These people think the lines 'all nations will be blessed' is through Israel. btw, so did Judaism, which is why it became so arrogant and self worshipping. But Paul says no. He says that was about the Gospel and the Seed. There is no other way to navigate Gal 3:8-10 honestly.
 
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Why? This thread is about how 2P2P forgot to tell us that there were actually 2 gospels in Gal 3:8. That is the 'literal' reading of the verse, and therefore it is official. Because 2P2Ps say so. It doesn't matter what the grammar says, 2P2Ps are always right because there is always a 2nd program in mind 'behind' the text that we are supposed to know.

What does my 'testimony' have to do with that?
 
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Why? This thread is about how 2P2P forgot to tell us that there were actually 2 gospels in Gal 3:8. That is the 'literal' reading of the verse, and therefore it is official. Because 2P2Ps say so. It doesn't matter what the grammar says, 2P2Ps are always right because there is always a 2nd program in mind 'behind' the text that we are supposed to know.

What does my 'testimony' have to do with that?
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Because if you aren't saved you have 0% chance of understanding the Word.
 
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SaulToPaul said:
Because if you aren't saved you have 0% chance of understanding the Word.
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Exactly, but 'saved' to you means a 'restored Judaistic theocracy' (Rom 11) not justified from sins. Justification from sins brings the Spirit (Gal 3:1-5) which teaches what Gal 3 says. That is why 2P2P does not track with Gal 3 , at all.
 
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