10 things I'm right about, whether you agree or not.
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Balder
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I'm curious if you see that the motivations you're describing mostly have to do with "what's in it for me." Do you see that?
Minerva
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:dog:
Wong Fei Hung
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I'm right here.
Mystery
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Are you going to answer my questions, or are you going to just threaten me?
Wong Fei Hung
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Don't know.
No.
If I reveal the last one, others will know too. Let it be our secret.
Threats?
Did I miss any?
Morpheus
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So you prefer to ignore all the previous posts and the rest of the one you picked pieces out of here? You cannot argue the biblical evidence so you rant and rave and pretend like it wasn't posted. Ignoring the information is not shrewd, ignoring comes from the same root as ignorance.
Mystery
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Do you talk to yourself alot? Or is something new?
Minerva
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So....clicking on the first link, I can see exactly what you mean by everything that was said. Now, what about more serious afflictions? Schizophrenia, or the manic phase of manic-depressive illness, things of that nature? What, in your opinion, is it supposed to mean from a religious standpoint when the brain is diseased? Would you just say that is no diffrent than anyother part of the body being diseased? If so, what about the fact that if your body has cancer your mind can still function and you could come to accept Jesus as your saviour if you hadn't already....but if your brain is diseased and you do not have the capacity to do so, then what?
On Fire
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Your cult has it made in the shade!
Bored? Sin!
Bored with sinning? Stop!
Bored? Sin!
Bored with sinning? Stop!
Bored? Sin!
Bored with sinning? Stop!
Bored? Sin!
Bored with sinning? Stop!
Bored? Sin!
Is this what you call freedom?
Minerva
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His cult?
Mystery
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In the cases where someone's brain is diseased or injured beyond their ability to function, God says that he does not judge those who do not know their right from their left. Jonah 4:11
Of course we don't always know what the mind can perceive when the brain is not functioning properly.
Schizophrenia is not a disease, and neither is OCD, PTSD, BPD, or any other of the 200 named disorders in the DSM IV (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders). In fact there has been a battle going on in the psychiatric profession to have schizophrenia removed from the DSM, because it is so vague as to what actually defines this fabricated disorder.
Please understand the symptoms on all disorders are, for the most part, very real, but not necessarily because of a brain disease or injury. There is no such thing as "chemical imbalances" that bring on disorders (though it is commonly claimed by ignorant medical "professionals").
More...
Mystery
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Paul R. McHugh, Professor of Psychiatry at Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine and psychiatrist-in-chief at the Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore:
... In the absence of validating conceptions like the six mechanisms of disease in internal medicine, American psychiatry has turned to committees of experts to define mental disorder. Membership on such committees is a mater of ones reputation in the APA which means that those chosen can confidently be expected to manifest not only a requisite degree of psychiatric competence but, perhaps more crucially, some talent for diplomacy and self-promotion.
The new DSM approach of using experts and descriptive criteria in identifying psychiatric diseases has encouraged a productive industry. If you can describe it, you can name it; and if you can name it, then you can claim it exists as a distinct entity with, eventually, a direct treatment tied to it. Proposals for new psychiatric disorders have multiplied so feverishly that the DSM itself has grown from a mere 119 pages in 1968 to 886 in the latest edition; a new and enlarged edition, DSM-V, is already in the planning stages. Embedded within these hundreds of pages are some categories...that are dubious, in the sense that they are more like the normal responses of sensitive people than psychiatric entities; and some that are purely the inventions of their proponents.
... In the absence of validating conceptions like the six mechanisms of disease in internal medicine, American psychiatry has turned to committees of experts to define mental disorder. Membership on such committees is a mater of ones reputation in the APA which means that those chosen can confidently be expected to manifest not only a requisite degree of psychiatric competence but, perhaps more crucially, some talent for diplomacy and self-promotion.
The new DSM approach of using experts and descriptive criteria in identifying psychiatric diseases has encouraged a productive industry. If you can describe it, you can name it; and if you can name it, then you can claim it exists as a distinct entity with, eventually, a direct treatment tied to it. Proposals for new psychiatric disorders have multiplied so feverishly that the DSM itself has grown from a mere 119 pages in 1968 to 886 in the latest edition; a new and enlarged edition, DSM-V, is already in the planning stages. Embedded within these hundreds of pages are some categories...that are dubious, in the sense that they are more like the normal responses of sensitive people than psychiatric entities; and some that are purely the inventions of their proponents.
Minerva
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Do you have any idea how many books I have ready on Psychology, Brain Function, Sleep...things of that nature and how they all relate? You are throwing a mighty big kink in my edumakashun!
I know that some things are bogus, sure. I know that these days they will give a name to anything.... if they can pin a name they can develop a medication, which means lots of money to lots of people and easy treatment by the doctors...but some things you are saying are throwing me off. If you have any more links I would love to see them.
I know that some things are bogus, sure. I know that these days they will give a name to anything.... if they can pin a name they can develop a medication, which means lots of money to lots of people and easy treatment by the doctors...but some things you are saying are throwing me off. If you have any more links I would love to see them.
Mystery
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I know it's not easy, when our "minds" are challenged to undue the things we once believed as true, but for us believers in Christ, we have already been through it at least once.
Here are some books you can get from your library...
Myth of Mental Illness - Thomas Szasz (a must read!)
Manufacture of Madness - Thomas Szasz
Mad In America - Robert Whitaker
Making Us Crazy, DSM: The Psychiatric Bible and the Creation of Mental Disorders - Herb Kutchins and Stuart A. Kirk
Minerva
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Well, don't forget I live in the ocuntry, there's a library in the next town but it will be amazing if they have all these! I will go see for sure, thanks!
...so why should I take these sources as credible? :think:
Mystery
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I don't do that, nor do I expect you to do that. Just read what they say and see what conclusions you come to.
