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  1. Clete

    Constitutional Monarchy

    @JudgeRightly, If you have it, could you post the full text of the proposed constitution, the criminal code and the code of use and whatever other original documents you've got that are relevant to this discussion?
  2. Clete

    Constitutional Monarchy

    No, you don't get to take home the whole basket because I decided to stop arguing over your use of terminology. Even with my modification, it is still a constitutional monarchy, who's king is the sovereign of the nation so long as he doesn't abdicate that authority by ignoring the law that...
  3. Clete

    Honest struggles on God’s omniscience.

    It's interesting that I didn't even bother to read the passages he cited. They don't teach omni-anything, in the classical meaning of the terms.
  4. Clete

    Honest struggles on God’s omniscience.

    A near perfect definition of an appeal to tradition fallacy. It is not an inference or an implication. We state it outright that God does not know the future in any sense similar to what Classical Christian dogma teaches. We do not state that because we pull it out of the clear blue sky but...
  5. Clete

    Constitutional Monarchy

    So be it. The king is not the final authority. That is, when he has chosen egregiously violate the law that placed him in his place of authority in the first place, then the law has provision to remove him from that place of authority.
  6. Clete

    The continued policing problem in America.

    You missed the point, but I am gratified that you were honest enough to kind of sort of concede the point. You did it like some sort of idiot lawyer, as if anyone here was suggesting that no law is ever broken in any place that isn't run by a democrat, which is silly, but you've gone much...
  7. Clete

    Constitutional Monarchy

    You are definitely conflating morality and law in this response but let's leave that aside and think on this from a different angle... We've been debating the issue as though there are only two possibilities: An absolutely immune king. A superior authority that can remove the king at will...
  8. Clete

    Constitutional Monarchy

    Laughably delusional, self-contradictory nonsense. I can see that you deserve to remain on ignore.
  9. Clete

    Constitutional Monarchy

    I promise that I really did read your entire post, but I'm extremely pressed for time so my response will be super focused... Does the proposed constitution hold a person accused of a crime guilty before he has a trial?
  10. Clete

    Oh No Not Another Apocalypse Thread By Chrysostom

    I don't think that most of the people working to go to the Moon or Mars have big mining dollar signs in their eyes. That's just onlookers speculating about potential benefits of Lunar bases and going to asteroids and Mars and whatever else. I think, for those doing actual work on these missions...
  11. Clete

    The continued policing problem in America.

    Him conceding that point is not the equivalent of him conceding that "Crime is primarily a problem in democrat-run cities and states.". Anyone who could possibly deny such an obvious truth is simply delusional. Their mind is broken. And that's assuming that their denial of it isn't an...
  12. Clete

    Oh No Not Another Apocalypse Thread By Chrysostom

    How does the first sentence have anything to do with the second? What's so stupid about wanting to explore the solar system? I mean, I agree that their whole worldview is flawed and the reasons they give for going are foolish but that doesn't mean that attempting to go to Mars is inherently a...
  13. Clete

    Constitutional Monarchy

    This is true of everyone, whether they are a king or not. As such, it is not relevant to the question being debated. That question being whether the king should enjoy immunity from legal procession.
  14. Clete

    Constitutional Monarchy

    We're just going in circles. I simply will not advocate for a system that places the king above the law. I do not care whether you can find some way to rationalize that away and advance some theory that places the king theoretically under the law. In practical terms, the proposed system places...
  15. Clete

    The continued policing problem in America.

    You see what you choose to see and have no wisdom whatsoever. You might as well be deaf, dumb, blind and stupid. In reality, you don't have any of those as an excuse. You're simply a fool.
  16. Clete

    The continued policing problem in America.

    You're delusional.
  17. Clete

    Constitutional Monarchy

    No. The court exists because of the law. If there is no court then there isn't any law. At best there is a moral code but as I've repeatedly stated we aren't talking about morality per se, we are talking about criminal justice. Saying that there is criminal justice without a court is like saying...
  18. Clete

    Constitutional Monarchy

    Where there is no court, there is no law. Okay, then it is both you and the proposed Constitution that is trying to have it both ways. An unenforceable law is no law at all. The fact that the king would answer to God is no different than any other criminal except that right now, the king gets...
  19. Clete

    Constitutional Monarchy

    If this is the case then what are we even talking about? What is the legal penalty if the king rapes someone? If you say anything other than that he is tried in court and executed upon conviction then don't talk to me about the king being under the law because he isn't. You simply don't get...
  20. Clete

    Constitutional Monarchy

    I don't understand how you find so many words to say in response to such a simple concept as not setting a man in a de-facto position above the law, which you admit is precisely what your proposed system would do. If the nation in question had a covenant relationship with the living God such as...
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