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Hardly changes? From being able to do nothing to being able to do everything it was designed for? Let's compare that with mankind. Let's say that the fall caused most of the power to drain from Adam and Eve, so that they were dying and "as good as dead". Now they would be running on low power...

Looks better than their other representative.

Right. Be sure it is made to do so by a power source. In the mean time it isn't doing anything in some other place or existence. Besides @Clete's definition for penance, I found this one: 2.a Christian sacrament in which a member of the Church confesses sins to a priest and is given absolution...

Then if someone preaches scripture to you, you would take direction from him? "...and how will they hear without a preacher?" As head of the household, and the one God trusted to teach his household, he would be the leader of the church, usually. He did attend a different church once, when he...

I like how the smoke is still coming from the gun, and the authorities are there to say he did nothing wrong. Sounds like antics antifa. (i hate my spell check)

I guess I can see what you're getting at, since @Tambora mentioned "worship", but it still goes back to the thread title and OP. So any talk of "worship" in this thread would naturally be seen as what goes on when one "attends church". She also mentioned "place", which stresses not the activity...

Then you don't acknowledge any direction from scripture, either? Did you read the verses I quoted? What about the one that said he would teach his household, and then the one that said how many were in his household? I feel a little silly repeating the exact same verses, but they answer your...

It applies to whether someone is a part of a church, which is what the thread is about. Worship is a side issue someone brought up, but not unimportant.

Yes, but it takes at least 2 others to hold you accountable, according to Matthew 18:16 — But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. I don't understand what you're getting at with your comment...

Did I mention a place? I mentioned a congregation...something that involves multiple people. There's certainly no problem worshipping God by yourself, but there is something wrong with never worshipping with other believers. There's a group that is currently active at any point in time. It...

I hate to put myself at complete (g)odds with Augustine and Calvin, recognizing that I won't be perfect in my theology either. My point was that to have communion, two beings need to share some of the same space, at least in some way. God walked in the garden with Adam and Eve. An eagle would...

What if worshipping Him in spirit includes being a part of a congregation, including learning to get along with each other even when we don't agree about something? We aren't really saved individually, but only in Christ. Obviously there will be exceptions, like the thief on the cross who was...

I think that's the right answer, but if being a part of the body of Christ is what saves us, and we have the opportunity to do so but choose not to, are we really a part of that body?

Of course. But who actually became a man after being something else for all eternity past? Probably. It's hard to imagine God making a bottom-dwelling sea creature to have communion with, say, an eagle. Yep...I've certainly seen that.

Yet His scriptures describe changes in His plans for people and nations in some cases, and scripture says these things are in response to what that person/nation does/did. That's mainly bluster on your part, since we're both trying to understand not so much about what God hasn't revealed, but...

Shouldn't Paul have then said, "there is no such thing as baptism, if the dead are not raised"? If the baptism being addressed is purely the baptism of the Holy Spirit, then that baptism would be of no account at all, and therefore God would not waste His time. This speaks powerfully that the...

@ffreeloader I'd like to give you my story. I was intrigued about the idea of alkalinizing ones body/blood stream, mainly because I've dealt with gout for over a decade. Gout is usually described as being caused by too much uric acid. So after I read ffreeloader's post, I decided to try Baking...

That's what he was talking about...man-caused global warming. Haven't you seen all that stuff we've been doing to the sun?

That's how California was when I lived there, too, in the 80's

I don't want to interject something that's unwarranted or making light of their deaths, but both of those gentlemen on CF were vaccinated.