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This pic is from the shore line, the person taking it would be would be average adult height lets say. So what is the curvature of the earth at 30 miles. The pic itself gives us enough to go by. --Dave

White Cliffs of Dover The most famous cliffs in the world are found in the southeast of England. The White Cliffs of Dover overlook the English Channel. On clear days, the rock walls can actually be seen from France. At 300 feet, these are not the tallest sea cliffs on earth. However, their...

They are lights in the sky. We don't know what they are made of or how far away they are, or how big they are. --Dave

Weight is no more a product of gravity than mass and density. --Dave

Says who? --Dave

There are videos that show what they actually look like without NASA photo shop. But I get hell for even suggesting that any one should view a video that might support flat earth theory. So I'm saying they exist, God fore bid that should ask you to view it. So, just saying. --Dave

Mass, density, weight. No invisible force is needed to keep things from floating into space on a flat stationary earth. --Dave

The flat earth is not moving. --Dave

A rotating earth would move/spin through the atmosphere that surrounds it just like any other physical object moves through the atmosphere that surrounds it. If the atmosphere was held in place and moved with earth as it rotated then everything in that atmosphere would move with the earth and...

The atmosphere does not move or spin with the spinning earth. --Dave

There is no need to imagine an invisible force holding every thing down on the flat immovable earth. Gravity is an imagined force that keeps every thing on a spinning globe. Gravity can hold the atmosphere from escaping into outer space but it cannot keep a rotating earth from cutting through...

Every thing that flies around a globe flies in a circle. Every thing that flies around a flat earth flies in a circle. --Dave

I'v already given a long explanation for this, but briefly; Every physical object, animal, or person that moves on the surface of the earth and every physical object, bird, plane, etc. that moves through the sky, cuts right through the atmosphere of space that is around us and above us. If the...

Tell me just one thing you know that is an absolute fact about the universe out there. --Dave

I was joking about ships falling off the edge of the flat earth. I am very serious about a flat motionless earth being possibly true. --Dave

I've never measured it so I don't know. Obviously it's a lot farther than on a globe model. --Dave

Let's not tell him, I know there many who would be crushed by the news. --Dave

A flat earth is not rotating. --Dave

The ancient world believed the earth was flat and seemed to have no problem navigating the oceans and creating and accurate calendar. All calculations about what is or is not a star, or how far away the sun, moon, and stars are, are theoretical and not verifiable. All cosmological constructs...