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  1. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    The arctic ice wall circles the flat earth so that may be one way to interpret that but I could see it as a globe as well by that one verse. All verses as a whole on the subject would be helpful but might also be a subject of it's own. --Dave
  2. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I don't want this tread to be a Bible study. Lets just accept that there has always been a view that the Biblical cosmology is a flat earth but there is also a view that the Bible does not say that. --Dave
  3. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    The dome is over the flat earth. --Dave
  4. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    If a plane can move through the atmosphere then it does not move with the atmosphere If the speed of the rotating earth is added to the speed of the plane going from LA to NY is the speed of the earth subtracted from the speed of the plane as is goes from NY to LA? Is the earth "inside off"...
  5. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I have posted a number of videos that completely contradict what your space photo is showing, both from NASA and private. And you could see that for yourself if you would watch them. But I will certainly post more of them later. I want an answer to my question on motion first. --Dave
  6. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    So the fish don't know the water is moving??? Have you asked any of them? Your example describes a motionless earth with visible moving water, thank you for your support. --Dave
  7. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I was a professional graphic artist at one time, any photo can be altered, fish eye lens not required. --Dave
  8. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Round or flat does not change my faith in Christ one bit. The Biblical world view is not effected one way or the other either. This is not about salvation, it's about deception. Satan is a deceiver and the question is has he fooled the world through globalism and we went to the moon? I don't...
  9. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    But we can see the river moving, we don't see the earth or atmosphere moving is the point. And the river moves over land that is not moving. This is a false analogy, and you will not find an analogy because it's a contradiction to say the earth moves the atmosphere and every thing in it but...
  10. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Tell what the atmosphere is made of and how it moves things in it while at the same time things move through it. The atmosphere moves everything with it. Things move through the atmosphere. Then the atmosphere does not move every thing with it. See the problem? --Dave
  11. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    If the invisible atmosphere is moved with the visible earth but everything visible moves through the invisible atmosphere then we should see the movement of the visible earth even though we cannot see the invisible atmosphere moving with it. How does gravity move the atmosphere? Don't tell...
  12. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Go back a few posts and you will see how I have answered that. --Dave
  13. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Not really. a flat earth with a circling sun, moon, and stars (which are not millions of miles away) fulfill all the basic requirements. In other words flat earth model and spinning globe model have tha exact same calendar. I will get more into that later but I want to focus on the supposed...
  14. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I wish you would watch that video, it's not that long. Just see how convinced and convincing he is. I don't believe him either but for different reasons than you. The next step. If the invisible atmosphere is moved with the visible earth but everything visible moves through the invisible...
  15. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Not an answer to the question Sent from my iPhone using TOL
  16. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    And just what do you know about the earth is flat and we never went to the moon? Have you studied these beliefs? If you have not studied these arguments, and clearly you don't understand them, then I recommend that you take your own advise. Your hypocrisy is evidence of being "brain dead". --Dave
  17. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    You misquoted me, I have to correct you again. I did not say brain dead people are those who disagree with me. I forgive you. --Dave
  18. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Laws of motion and modern physics is not an answer to this contradiction. The man in the video said that the bullet does not move with the atmosphere and that the ground moves under it. The target will move away from the path of the speeding bullet if not adjusted for that movement. The Target...
  19. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    You don't know any thing about philosophy or logical fallacies which is why you believe in evolution and relativity. --Dave
  20. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I corrected you when you said that space-time was part of General not Special theory of Relativity. The concept of space-time, space and time being the same thing, was the foundation of SR. Now I have to correct you again. "Fatalism" is a general term, there are more than one kind or cause for...
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