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  1. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    As I have said, this is not proof of NASA faking space exploration in itself. It's one of many examples of something that could easily be faked. --Dave
  2. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    As I said, this is not a good argument for either view, in my opinion. --Dave
  3. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    This is one example that, I agree, may be faked, I don't know for sure. It's not a reason, in itself, to believe NASA is a fake space agency. But it is possible that he is exactly right. The shuttle "looks" like a jet, more than a glider and that it always lands with jets along side of it, that...
  4. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Falling or shooting, in what ever direction, stars is a weak argument for me that lacks support for either flat or globe earth. --Dave
  5. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I find this very interesting. It will require some exegetical work for me to understand this better. Words can have more than one meaning so how it is used in a sentence is syntax and how it is used within the context must be consistent. I can't comment at the moment but I like your post and I...
  6. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    The term, falling star, exists for a reason. Shooting stars go across the sky. I've never seen a picture like this one before, so, it's suspect to me. But the rare misdirection of such events is not evidence enough of a globe and I would not use falling or shooting stars either as a proof of a...
  7. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    The problem with your view is that the lights were placed in the firmament/vault/dome of heaven not on the earth. --Dave
  8. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Max Igan is interviewed after he revealed that he took a flight that went the wrong direction. A must see. --Dave
  9. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    The person who made the video said some would say this but he claims the sounds come from the shuttle. Funny how the shuttle has a back end that looks like an engine and a wing span that doesn't look like a glider. --Dave
  10. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Did you see the three videos I posted in row? I was not prepared to get this involved with this subject. I believe it needs to be look at. It took me years to come to terms with evolution. I have been a couple of years trying to grasp modern cosmology which is far removed from reality and...
  11. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Yes, a sphere can look like a circle, I agree with that. The flat earth is not said to be infinite. --Dave
  12. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I'm not sure ancients, as you put it, were of low intelligence. I think the closer to Adam we get the more accurately informed humanity would be. I say earth is different because it was meant to be inhabited and have oceans. The Pythagorean philosophers imagined the earth to be like the sun...
  13. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    As I just said, I think this verse could be used either way. I think Genesis is clear that the sun, moon, and stars are different from the earth. They are lights not planets, not other galaxies, or other universes. --Dave
  14. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Were we attacking the Christian faith when we said God was not "timeless", were we arguing the Bible was false? I would not rest my case on one Bible verse and one word either way, anyway. If you're going to get emotional about this, I understand if you would rather not continue. Thank you for...
  15. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    All of us view the ground rising up as it meets the horizon line of our eye level. We know that the ground is still level and the road ahead is still the same width even though it appears narrower as it reaches the horizon line. These people have not gone over a curved earth when comparing...
  16. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Just as a square is not a box, a circle is not a sphere. Both are flat. A tent would be like a dome. --Dave
  17. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Your argument is non sequitur. We have never seen Jesus, Abraham, etc. but we can "see" the earth, we can "see" that it's not curved, and we can "see" that it's not moving. We don't have to argue what we can actually "see". We don't have to prove what we see, we must however prove that what we...
  18. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    MAX IGAN's Santiago to Sydney Flight Shows Globe Anomaly --Dave
  19. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Rob Skiba proves Chicago skyline isn't a mirage - Flat Earth ? - Mark Sargent --Dave
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