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Gravity is density turned into a "weak magnet" for a globe earth. --Dave

Short quiz Three cosmological models, which is the correct one? What things do flat, geocentric, and heliocentric earth, all have in common? 1. They all have the same calendar. 2. They all account for eclipses. 3. Next? --Dave

There are plenty of pictures of the Chicago skyline from across Lake Michigan. I don't know when or how often that occurs, but here is a website that talks about it. Chicago Skyline from Warren Dunes Across Lake Michigan "This photo is really, really awesome because I think you're capturing...

The globe is "counter intuitive" to what we see and know about water is the point. The globe is "counter intuitive" to what we experience as uphill and down hill, right side up and upside down as well. Relativity did not begin with Einstein, it seems it began with globe earth. --Dave

There's are important common "unknown" aspects to all three. The differences are already obvious. --Dave

Short quiz Three cosmological models, which is the correct one? What things do flat, geocentric, and heliocentric earth, all have in common? 1. I'll start with same calendar 2. What else? --Dave

I don't want to expand this thread to include flood geology and the nature of the firmament above. But I will simply say that the flood story does not negate the flat earth model in my view. The flood story does not negate the globe model either in my view. But I will absolutely not get into the...

My explanation is absolutely correct and irrefutable. --Dave

There are still hills and mountains on the flat earth model. --Dave

Both flat earth and globe earth have hills, mountains, and valleys. Flat earth simply means the land and oceans are not on a huge spinning sphere moving through space around the sun. Flat earth means, what you see is real. The earth is seen to be stationary and "over all" (think big) flat. This...

Just stand and imagine you're on a globe, where you are standing is exactly at the very top off the globe. As you turn every direction gradually over distance curves down ward away from you. Some one at the very bottom of this globe is seeing it exactly as you are. To them you are at the...

There is no "actual" uphill or downhill on a globe. Downhill to you is uphill to everyone else, etc. This contradicts the earth we see and experience. --Dave

"Evolution happens irrespective of whether we understand how or don't understand", is a statement of "belief". The "physical" sciences are founded on evidence that can be "falsified" and are supposed to be subject to empirical sensory "verification". Evolution like globe earth is based on...

Fog appears even on clear days. --Dave

The lakes are always subject to "haze" and "fog", that can obscure distant shores at any distance. --Dave

This picture demonstrates how a flat plain, or level/flat water, appears to rise up, even though there is no actual elevation, to meet the eye "level" of the viewer. We know the water is not elevating but only appears that way. The same effect occurs even through a telescopic lens. What ever is...

All vision, even aided by a telescopes, is subject to an ascending horizon line to the viewers height on a flat plain. This is an absolute fact. There exists a vanishing point across that entire horizon line of "limited" visual ability. The state of Kansas is a flat plain that extends for many...

I understood your point, and if the earth is a globe you are correct. But any river flowing both uphill and down hill at the same time is a self contradiction and obviously not true, which means the earth must be flat. --Dave

I was talking about elevations so when I said no up or down what I meant was there is no "uphill" and no "downhill". I'm sorry for the confusion. The following illustration will help, I hope, explain what I meant. From what ever point you are standing on a globe, every direction is downhill...

Only in your dreams? --Dave