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I don't think I need your help on how to do my evangelism. I'm very good at what I do. http://www.dynamicfreetheism.com/Evangelism.html --Dave

A good flat earth map does not exist and I would not take a side for either flat or globe earth based on a map. --Dave

I have not accepted or rejected any thing yet. You have a reading comprehension problem. I have said repeatedly what I am trying to accomplish here. There are good arguments and bad ones from both sides. What I believe now and in the end is not important, what's important is that there is...

The Flat earth model and the globe model have the same calendar and the same movement of the sun, moon, and stars. They simply have the sun, moon, and stars at different sizes and different distances from the earth. The heliocentric and geocentric models also share the same calendar, etc. We...

But it's just not the oblate one that Neil Degrasse Tyson says exists. --Dave

You have that technically backwards. The people who say the Towers was an inside job are not the ones who destroyed the towers, either the hijackers conspired to take down the towers or Bush and friends in government conspired to take them down. Love you enemies! --Dave

This subject cannot be decided by one point there are too many aspects to it. I will address all of them when I conclude. --Dave

Good point you may be correct, or not. But it needs to be considered. Thanks. --Dave Sent from my iPhone using TOL

A proof for the existence of God Point: The very possibility of God means he exists. Counter point: I can imagine all kinds of Gods who's existence is only in my head. Point: Only one kind of God can create an intelligently designed universe. Counter point: This is only one of a gazillion...

In the end, the arguments are all that matter, not who (or how many) make it, or why they are doing it. If this were not so, at least in my mind, and it's the other way around, then I'm not going to the park, or go on line, because "who am I", "why am I here?" I become just a nobody with just an...

I've be asked if I think the earth is flat before, so I'm sure it will happen again. And when I have said no they say well the Bible says it is. I have always used the usual arguments that we all know, but!!! I strongly believe in having integrity, if you try to con them in the park they see...

As I said, if I concede any one point at this time this debate is over. I am examining all the good stuff you post, but I will render my conclusions when I think I have understood this well enough. Thanks for the graph, very helpful. --Dave

The video shows that there is no perfect map for flat or globe earth. That's the only point. --Dave

Once I concede any one point this debate is over. Did that cross your mind? And because the astronomy aspect of this topic is what I least understand about it I still want to continue to examine the evidence and arguments you all are providing. I have great respect for all of you. I want to make...

The point is the videos show stares to be very different than what NASA is showing us. --Dave

The earth is flat and we never went to the moon I have not accepted or rejected anything yet, accept spacetime Sent from my iPhone using TOL

I hope every one will have a good day today, I'm off to visit my kids and grand kids in NJ. I hope some of you will accept my Brenda Lee Apology and enjoy the West Wing Map clip. --Dave

I totally agree with you about the problems, and I take this to be something else I have examine more carefully, and I don't have an answer at this time. --Dave

But this is not B.S. to some one else. I think evolution is B.S. and I hated having to study so much of it just like you and others feel about this, but how else do we determine what is or is not true and share that with others. Try studying Hinduism, it's a joke, but I do it to help others see...

The "actual size" of continents will not determine if the earth is a globe or flat, but I think it's important to get an accurate understanding of how flat verses globe earth compares. Why say it in words when a pic or video does it so much better? --Dave