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The sun is not a "near point source of light" How shadows work on a sphere is a fact. The umbra is not the same in the two illustrations. --Dave

The fact is Antarctica has a wall of ice. Simple facts are not in dispute here. --Dave

Flat Earth and fake ball earth magic - The Impossible Moon Phases ! --Dave

Something that is missing when we see the moon is form shadow or middle tone. Their should be a highlight area of direct sun light, then gradually to a middle tone area, then the dark area if the moon is a sphere. The lines in this pic (below) that show the direction of sun light should be...

Antarctic Ice wall https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=A0LEV74RwO5YtgEAEFgPxQt.?p=antartic+ice+wall&fr=sfp&fr2=piv-web&hspart=omr&hsimp=yhs-001&type=86311326 --Dave

Look up on google "Antarctic Ice Wall" it is very visible. Does it surround the entire flat earth or is it only surround the bottom of the globes earth is the question. --Dave Sent from my iPhone using TOL

That's better. My concern is the umbra and pre umbra. Pre umbra is, simply, the sun rise, right? --Dave Sent from my iPhone using TOL

If you can't explain the problem just say so. --Dave Sent from my iPhone using TOL

I have problems with this illustration. The sun and the moon are the same size viewed from earth. Why is the sun depicted to be larger than the earth and the moon smaller than the earth? I see deception here. --Dave

I'd say God is beyond the ice wall and above the dome. --Dave

I played a lot of baseball and basketball and if some asked me, "what is the shape of the baseball or basketball" I would have said "round". I would not have said it was a sphere. Sorry for the confusion. I was a jock, not a nerd when I was a kid. --Dave

I already said it was round. There are those who think it is half a sphere, some say concave, some say convex. Every one will make up their own minds about the validity of the evidence for flat earth. I may be the only one here comparing both views, now three views-AMR --Dave

No. There is more land beyond the wall of ice that surrounds the flat earth. No one knows how far it extends. --Dave

The Moon is A Light Flat Earth Proof Geocentric Earth.mirror --Dave

Flat Earth - Balloon Almost Touches The Sun | Sun 149.600.000 km --Dave

Here is what we really see. I know it's from a different altitude, supposedly. But there is still a world of difference between what NASA is showing us an what we see. The rotation from ISS is missing and so is the curvature. --Dave

Here is what we see from the ISS and NASA --Dave

I just told the main point, so why say you don't get it? If you have a point to make, make it. I'm exploring this from every angle and perspective. You, and every one else who thinks there is no controversy here and it's all cut and dried are wrong about that. You have your view and you are...

You saw the pictures and you understand my point. The real question is, are moon phases due to the sun's light reflecting off it, or are the moon phases due to the moon's own self illumination. I have viewed and am still viewing video to see which theory holds up. I see this as a possible...

Round --Dave