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I probably have more knowledge collectively on all three cosmologies and the philosophies and theologies that came with them than any other person here. Not to mention that this thread has generated more posts and information from all sides on the subject of cosmology than one could have...

A test that is off by 14 feet is not "less than precise" it's a complete miscalculation that people like Hawking are not supposed to make, which is why they used him, or his voice. The error is so bad that we can only assume a deliberate attempt to deceive since incompetence could not be...

Just look at the clouds along the left side edge of the continent. A number of them end just at the edge of the continent. Clearly the person doing the artwork wanted to get a good enough definition of the shape of it so we would know it was Africa but that sharp an edge/line exposes it as...

Watch the video again. When they see the helicopter appear it's six miles away and 24 feet above the ground. But the telescope is about three feet above the ground and at six miles the helicopter would be visible at 10 feet above the ground not 24 feet. I provided the link to prove my case...

The reason, as stated many times, is the perspective of how we see causes a horizon that limits how far we can see into the distance. The closer to the ground we are the less we see into the distance and the higher we are the further we see into the distance. The ground beneath us rises up to...

You can't test according to the curvature of the earth and then forget to factor the height of the observer. No one would do that willingly unless they had a ulterior motive. You should know that and acknowledge it. It doesn't matter who the narrator is, the test was done incorrectly by someone...

My ilk debate and prove all things. What does your ilk do? :sheep: --Dave

The truth is Stuu, the so called brainiac orchestrating this test took the standard curvature amount of 24 feet at six miles but forgot to adjust for the height of observer/telescope. So there is no way this test was done honestly or correctly. --Dave

Science is doing the misleading, my argument exposes it. Stars exist all over the place because we can detect/see them all over the place. Gravity exists everywhere but we have only detected them in one place where it occurred at one time in the distant past light years ago. That's...

With the laser beam we can see from the boat to the origin and angle of the beam in order to make a commentary on what we see for our self without having to rely on someone else. The view from the beach through the telescope does not confirm the height of the helicopter at that time. We cannot...

Flat earth laser test Here is the good test for globe vs flat earth with a laser beam. Everyone watch and judge for yourself it's reliability and accuracy. --Dave

The question is not how can we detect gravity waves in general, the question is how can we detect these particular gravity waves in a specific place at a specific time many light years away when gravity waves are said to be everywhere in space at all times and yet be undetectable. The...

I've seen this video before. From 2:32 to 2:46 you can clearly see the point of origin of the lazar on the beach which would not be possible if there was a six foot drop, even at a 2' 7" height point of origin. At 2:46 and at 2:52, if you freeze it there, you can see from the point of origin...

On a globe earth, water (rivers, lakes, oceans) are never level only on a flat earth is this possible. I didn't use an argument from silence about the historic (not silent) fact that ancient Hebrew (Biblical) cosmology is flat motionless earth which is why I gave the "relevant" quote from Wiki...

If such waves existed they would be detectable everywhere at all times, large or small. --Dave

The problem is contradiction and circular reasoning. Detected gravity waves in a particular place light years away from us in a universe where said waves are everywhere at all times is both contradictory and circular nonsense. Deception is possible only when reason is discarded. --Dave

I never interpreted the passages of scriptures that say the stars will fall to earth, I simply quoted scripture, because that's exactly what it says. I never said that the scripture is without a cosmology, one can be saved if they believe in Flat Earth, Geocentrism, or Heliocentrism. To say you...

See, the irrationality of today's cosmology. You don't even know how to answer the objection. What is said to be everywhere cannot be detected only somewhere. What is everywhere must be detected everywhere. Cosmology is not built on logic. --Dave

My answer is no. Christianity is not dependent on cosmology. I have said many times that this subject does not affect salvation. That does not mean that "the World" (and those who turn away from the Christianity they once believed in) will not be deceived into rejecting Christianity and that...