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High altitude video showing the sunrise with possible light hitting the dome. --Dave

Tesla's objection to Einstein's relativity is well known. Needlessly displaying your knowledge of atoms does not address any point I'm making. When asked to explain a flat earth vs the globe, Tesla's electromagnetism is adopted in opposition to Einstein's gravity waves. I'm not proving FE or...

My answer is clear and easy to understand. --Dave

Here's an example of a fake ISS and Shuttle docking. Do I have to explain why this is phony? I'll say why if no one can figure it out. The ISS is still a mystery to me at this point. As I've said it's clearly not flying 200 some miles above us. I'll show from high altitude balloons that the...

What ad hom attack have I made??? Perspective is a reality that is explained through art. The horizon is where the ground beneath us rises up to our eye level. The higher up we go the farther we can see over the flat plane. Everything that we cannot see is "beyond" the horizon because it's...

It's been said I've been led astray and it follows that by advocating flat earth I'm leading others astray. If it was not for the sake of Christianity itself neither Clete or anyone else would have charged me with all the derogatory ad homs. To Clete I "make the whole Christian world look like...

It seemed to me that was what you were saying. If I was wrong than I apologise. There are many who do say the suns rays that hit the earth are parallel. But rather than say I was mistaken about what you were saying and giving me a chance to consider your comments again, you just call me more...

Here is a very interesting article about the Titanic Did An Optical Illusion Doom the Titanic? By Rebecca Boyle The article explains that a superior mirage caused the ship to sink and delayed the rescue of the passengers. But a superior mirage would have lifted the ship and the iceberg...

If I didn't see problems with both views I would not be saying I see good arguments from both. You all never seem to read some of the things I write or you're old like me and suffer memory loss. Now where was I? Perspective is how we see everything. Now look at the light poles in this...

Recover satellite then send it off again. Great plan NASA. This would work on a flat earth too. Right? --Dave

Wow, balloons saves money. Who knew??? --Dave

There are videos that show the ISS in space, or what looks like it. I cannot confirm or deny what is up there, how it stays up there, or for how long. Could data be received from a satellite hung below a balloon and we don't know it? Here we have very interesting footage of a balloon carrying...

Not being a flat earther per sa, I have to keep researching their arguments to make sure I understand them properly before I can present them. Not all of them agree in every detail. There's a lot of info out there from a number of sources so It's a long slow process. The sun itself, what its...

That why we look at the videos from both the ISS and balloons to see for ourselves. --Dave

Not all flat earthers believe the sun is a disk. The surface of the sun is not the center of the sun and a line that continues past the sun's surface is where the rays of the sun all meet which is why they are not parallel. I know you will not yield on this point and that if I believe the...

I have no reason to doubt the altitude of the balloons. The similarities between the size of clouds and land areas in both the ISS and balloon videos suggest the ISS is not 254 miles above us. --Dave

No, the sun is not a disk it's a sphere. And all light rays coming from the sun spread out in all directions and from all possible points out there meet all other rays at a point in the center of the sun/sphere. There is a center, a point where all lines/rays originate from, which mean they are...

Rays from the sun all point back to a singular location, a singular point of origin, they are not parallel. Parallel rays means each ray has its own point of origin that's equal in distance apart from where we see it to where they originate from. And you call me stupid? :rotfl: --Dave P.S...

And a straight horizon is what we see from all high altitude balloons. The cameras do bounce and spin around a lot and a fisheye GoPro lens will bend horizons up and down, but once centered in the GoPro, and once the camera stops bouncing around, the horizon is alway straight/flat never curved...

Clete, I found this and I think it illustrates what you were getting at in your triangulation test. The sun would still be visible 3000 mile above earth from a distance of 10,000 thousand miles and this destroys the flat earth model. It will take more than one shot for me to wrap my head...