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It could be said we don't need a natural mechanism called gravity since God simply moves planets and keeps them in their path. If we credit God for moving/inertia/momentum the planets why disregard the power of God and imagine a natural mechanism called gravity? --Dave

I've criticised many works and have explained why including this curvature test. If you think the curvature calculator I used is wrong then it's up to you explain it not me. --Dave

Exactly. You would not have anything that had weight. Things of mass and density have weight that air cannot hold up which is why things fall to the ground, no special force (gravity) needed on a flat stationary earth. --Dave

Whether one is a Calvinist or an Open Theist has little to do with whether they are Flat Earth or not is exactly my point. We shouldn't worry how people feel when we debate. If we do we will stop debating all topics not just this one. That people get offended should not stop us and that people...

Good point. As a Creationist how do you explain the movement of the planets? God no doubt created gravity but what mechanism did God create that moves the planets. Gravity can't both move planets and hold them in an orbit which is why for an atheist the big bang moves them and gravity holds, or...

Just explain how much is blocked in relation to the height of the observer at a 6 mile distance according to how you think it should be calculated. I used the standard method that many use from the website I gave. Why is it wrong? Just explain it. --Dave

Take away mass, take away density and what do you have? --Dave

As long as you can "chuckle" about it fine with me. I wish Clete could do the same. No one said "work" didn't happen. What was designed and built just did not end up where it was intended. --Dave

No problem :rotfl: --Dave

Just think of how many have been duped by Calvinism, and think of all the Calvinist fathers we open theists have offended. I think it best we just keep all the duped and all the fathers out of our debates. --Dave

The youtube video is the official NASA recording of the moon/lem landing. Watching it proves the impossibility of it being real. They could not get the count down correct and you think they nailed the landing while moving downward at an angle then suddenly making a vertical landing. Seems...

That we do not all float in space on a flat stationary earth is easily empirically validated by the physical facts that mass plus density equals weight. Tesla believed electromagnetism is the cause of attraction not gravity. Imagining an invisible force that holds planets in orbit is not...

Who has not been dishonored or disrespected by someone making a counter claim? And the arguments for not having been to the moon are supported by evidence and gravity is simply a faith based idea not a scientific discovery. You can argue that you don't think the evidence is compelling for the...

You're losing me on this. When I have time I will look at your other calculation and try to understand what you're saying. --Dave

I respect your love for your Dad and your desire to honor him, but this debate is not about him. Accusing Patrick and I of insulting your father by this debate is unfair and unwarranted. Defeat flat earth arguments, defend the globe, and please leave your love for your father out of this...

Earth Curve Calculator This calculator is not very hard to use, try it. The 8 inch per mile squared gives us a 24 foot drop, which they got right. Then when we factor the 6 mile distance viewed at a 3 foot height we get a 10 foot block, not a 24 foot block as was wrong in the video. Stop...

The video presentation in it's facts are wrong. Argue to the error not to the one making the error. This error of not knowing that at the distance of 6 miles and viewer elevation of 3 feet the blocked area would be 10 feet, not 24 feet, is inexcusable for the person doing the narrating and the...

This does not change the gross error in the video. --Dave

--Dave :confused:

Everything you can see in the distance is perpendicular, the horizon comes up to your eye level as it does on a plane. Nothing in the distance is slanted away from you or sinks down below your eye level as it would on a curved earth. --Dave