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  1. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I don't make the graphs, but they need to be exaggerated in order to make their point because of the scale involved, as you have pointed out. The horizon line from our perspective always hits us in the middle of our eyes as we look straight/level/parallel to the ground beneath us. Since it is...
  2. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Let begin the video presentations of earth from high altitude balloons. What do we see? Make your comments. Enjoy. --Dave
  3. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    You circle a target you don't orbit it. --Dave
  4. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    In the globe model it is said we actually look down at the horizon and it is always illustrated that way. I don't know what the calculation is but you can see the prediction from the second pic that the higher up you go the farther down you will be looking at the horizon. --Dave
  5. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I told you already: 1. Perspective 2. Atmospheric density 3. Horizon refraction --Dave
  6. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    The question is not how or who receives data, it's can we rely on the images NASA supplies us with about the globe and space. I explained to you why I won't go along with your train of thought. You'll just have to understand that apparently God has not predetermined that I should do so. --Dave
  7. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    or·bit ˈôrbət/Submit noun 1. the curved path of a celestial object or spacecraft around a star, planet, or moon, especially a periodic elliptical revolution. The title of the video misuses the word orbit. Th plane in the video is circling not orbiting. --Dave
  8. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    AC-130 Spectre Gunship Orbiting Ok, I watched the video, but how does it show orbiting? --Dave
  9. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    You're assuming there are spacecraft that are "continually orbiting" a globe. You and nobody else can prove that. We have been bouncing radio signals off the "Ionosphere" for years so perhaps we have been bouncing phone and GPS signals as well. Perhaps the Ionosphere is the top of the Dome...
  10. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    No, as per reasons already given. --Dave
  11. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    My comment was not in response to your post. My criticism is of NASA/ISS not your experiment. When asked how to answer your experiment I have answered with how Flat Earth deals with how the sun works on the flat earth in respect to perspective, atmospheric refraction, and atmospheric density...
  12. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I stand corrected on my terminology. I should have originally said, "or anything else that is circling at low earth altitude". I see my mistake thanks for pointing it out. --Dave
  13. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    The whole flat earth movement is built on images that provide visible empirical evidence for a flat earth. If you want to destroy flat earth you must attack their evidence and their arguments in support of their claim. The globe earth has also been presented through visuals of one kind or...
  14. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Orbit presumes globe, it cannot prove what it assumes to be true. An orbit over a flat earth by definition is not possible anyway. Seeing a fast high altitude blimp of a craft streaking across the sky does not prove it's orbiting. And we cannot verify what is powering it or how long it's been...
  15. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    The globe earth is proven true through the images supposedly from space from NASA. You're arguing from a conclusion drawn from it's premise--circular reasoning. Seeing a tiny blimp of a craft flying fast and high across the sky tells me anything about it. Everything we say about it would be...
  16. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    That's backwards. And I've explained that clearly. --Dave
  17. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I told you no, and why. --Dave
  18. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Something said to orbit assumes a globe. The question is about the images the ISS sends, are they faked or not? A craft in the sky proves nothing. Seeing it does not inform us as to how it's powered or how long that particular craft has been up there, or that the earth is a globe. It's the...
  19. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I'm not going to be diverted away from the debate about images. I told you why. I'm not ignoring you questions, you're ignoring my answer. --Dave
  20. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    You're asking "leading questions", and I already know where you're headed with this. We have to prove globe before we can have orbit. The images prove the globe to all of us here on earth, the images are the debate. --Dave
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