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  1. Stripe

    Do you believe in predestination ?

    All we have is your assertion that a difference between foreknowledge and determinism when applied to God must allow for wills to exist. Describe how. Explain how God could know without having determined. Or are we supposed to take it on faith? We don't want you to keep repeating yourself. We...
  2. Stripe

    Do you believe in predestination ?

    Jesus was right about what Peter would do. What you need to do is explain how this fact means that your assessment of how He knows is correct. So far all we have is your assertion that it must be so and numerous attempts to avoid the challenge.
  3. Stripe

    Do you believe in predestination ?

    If it's basic, explain it. How can God know if it is not determined? Is His knowledge fallible? If someone saw a list of outcomes, would they be able to decide in opposition to them? Explain your ideas instead of just asserting them and ignoring the challenge. I don't think you have the first...
  4. Stripe

    Do you believe in predestination ?

    Blunt and clear on what matter? That your explanation of how He knew was the one everyone should hold to?
  5. Stripe

    Do you believe in predestination ?

    They are the same thing. Foreknowledge is the same as determinism when it comes to a creator. It was a question. How is that an opinion? We know why you hate the question. Only because you can use it to dodge the challenge. You'll be able to quote me saying that God does not know the...
  6. Stripe

    Do you believe in predestination ?

    Yip. What does that mean? It reads as it reads. You are the one declaring it is evidence for exhaustive foreknowledge. That's exactly our explanation if from this example the extrapolation is not made that God knows every decision infallibly. The distinction between our explanations is that...
  7. Stripe

    Do you believe in predestination ?

    Because you say so? If God knows, it is determined. If it's not determined, He doesn't know.
  8. Stripe

    Do you believe in predestination ?

    No. You're just declaring that the same setup said twice using different words is two distinct ideas because of your assertion of God's relationship with time. You don't provide any reasons or scripture. Just your opinion. Meanwhile, the challenge remains. Foreknowledge precludes a will as...
  9. Stripe

    Do you believe in predestination ?

    This shows that God was right about what Peter would do, not that Peter had no choice.
  10. Stripe

    Do you believe in predestination ?

    So you have a "nonlinear frame of reference and understanding"? Explain to us how you got this "frame" and how it means that what God knows will happen is not determined.
  11. Stripe

    Do you believe in predestination ?

    It ain't my job to explain what you mean. Because the outcome is determined. It will be as God knows. Understand now? I'm guessing no, but hope springs eternal an' all that.
  12. Stripe

    Do you believe in predestination ?

    If we have a choice, He doesn't know. If He knows, we don't have a choice. It's as simple as that.
  13. Stripe

    Do you believe in predestination ?

    That's a new one. Can you explain the difference between a "volitional choice" and a plain old "choice"? If He knows, it is determined. Unless you think it's not determined. In which case, He wouldn't know. Words have meanings. Until you can grasp that basic concept, it's no wonder you're...
  14. Stripe

    Do you believe in predestination ?

    Foreknowledge is knowing what will happen. Predeterminism is determining what will happen. When dealing with wills, they are the same thing. If they exist, wills do not.
  15. Stripe

    Do you believe in predestination ?

    Because it tests the idea that God could know while wills exist. We know why you hate the question and do not want it to exist.
  16. Stripe

    Do you believe in predestination ?

    You think you have a choice when there's only one outcome possible. How more confused could you get?
  17. Stripe

    Do you believe in predestination ?

    Because then you wouldn't/have/a/choice.
  18. Stripe

    Do you believe in predestination ?

    If God knows what a man will choose, then there is no will to interfere with.
  19. Stripe

    Do you believe in predestination ?

    Oh. So your answer is "yes"? My bad.
  20. Stripe

    Do you believe in predestination ?

    The question was: Do I have a choice? Your answer is no.
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