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Look, you can pretend like I'm an idiot or you can have a substantive discussion about an important topic. YOU CHOOSE! We aren't talking about random, anonymous people that Jesus might have been preaching this gospel too, we are talking about HIS OWN DISCIPLES! The very same disciples that He...

What? How could that possibly be irrelevant? You are suggesting then that Jesus' own disciples didn't believe the gospel that He Himself was preaching! Also, I wasn't kidding when I asked for the chapter and verse where Jesus ever preached a word about His death, burial and resurrection...

Chapter and verse please. Every time He mentioned it, His own disciples didn't believe Him.

That's your doctrine but the bible tells us explicitly that the test was for God's sake, not Abraham's. The result of the test was... Genesis 22:12 And He said, “Do not lay your hand on the lad, or do anything to him; FOR NOW I KNOW that you fear God, since you have not withheld your son, your...

That was brilliantly stated, JR! The Calvinists actually trusts God, not because He chooses to be trustworthy, but for the same reason they trust that stone idols don't rust and that water is wet. For them, love and any other relational aspect of God's character doesn't come into it. The god of...

No, he created the Heavens, the Earth and everything that is in them in six days. Exodus 20:11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it. Exodus 31:17 It is a...

It is not my burden to prove that something was NOT done, however.... God created the physical universe in six days. Time is not a physical thing, it is an idea. It's just an intellectual construct that we use to communicate information about the duration and sequence of events relative to...

What are you talking about? Just make the argument or admit that your mouth got ahead of your brain and that you can't do it.

I don't entirely disagree with you but I'm also ready to clarify my intent whenever anyone asks about why I phrase it the way I do. I believe that God knows everything knowable that He wants to know and that there is nothing that can be hidden in a manner that is past His finding out. In that...

No, you made the claim. That isn't the same thing as making an argument. Arguments have premises and conclusions which logically follow from those premises. In short, saying it doesn't make it so, Omniskeptical. Just showing up and stating as though it were a fact that if God isn't omniscient...

All excellent examples of passages where the Calvinist reads their doctrine into the text. None of these teach omniscience in the classical sense of the term.

If such an argument can be made then do so. Make the argument, Omniskeptical! Fair warning: You might need to take the day off from work because it will require more than a single sentence response!

I am simply responding to what I am reading. If I am missing something then that's why I'm asking you to tell me what your point is. Okay fine but I'm pretty sure I know how to read and I quoted your exact words and specifically asked you to explain how two, seemingly incongruous ideas can fit...

It has nothing to do with my imagination. I'm reading the thread and trying to wrap my head around what you could possibly be trying to insinuate. Then everything you've said in this entire thread is a lie? Is that what you want me to believe? If God's book is "just fine" then please explain...

So just what is your point here, Tambora? Are you trying to undermine the word of God or are you just doing that by accident? Just what is it that you think is supposed to be included in God's book that He failed to include?

I do not care what makes you laugh! I totally could NOT care less what makes you laugh! DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING OF ANY SUBSTANCE TO CONTRIBUTE? Do you have even the slightest ability to make any sort of rational argument? NO! Of course you don't. You're a laughing idiot.

"Prove" it, no it doesn't "prove" it but it certainly does make a sound argument. All you'd have to do to refute it is show me one single counter example. Of all the people in the world who have an interest in knowing about and deceminating examples of Jewish literature describing God it terms...

All knowing mankind? Who said anything about that? And the idea of omniscience has NO historical record prior to the writings of Plato. It does not exist in Jewish literature at all. If it did, every Calvinist in the world would have it memorized. Instead, they never bring it up and do things...

No, apparently I don't! What's so stupid about it? If.... Aristotle was a pagan Greek philosopher, which he was, and... "Omniscience" is an Aristotelian concept, which it is, and... "Omniscience" means to know absolutely every detail of existence, which is what it definitely meant to Aristotle...

All the other details in this discussion are just so much noise. This is the critical point upon which evolution fails. There is simply no way, no matter how long a period of time is allotted, for a random process to create anything but meaningless noise. There simply is no such thing as random...