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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    The spherical Earth conspiracy, if it exists, has been perpetuated for centuries longer than NASA or even the United States of America and dozens of countries have space programs right now, many of whom are enemies of each other in almost every respect. It would seem that the perpetuation of...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    The question that no one has made any real attempt to answer is WHY such a lie needed to be told. Where's the motive? Who gives a rip what shape the Earth is? If it's flat or round makes no difference to me. It doesn't affect my faith in God one iota either way. It doesn't change the way I live...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    The whole airline industry is in on the conspiracy! Have you ever personally flone from Chile to Australia? How do you know that such a flight even exists, much less how long it takes? It's all lies. It's government lies spawned from Satan to decieve the world into believing that the Earth is...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    This is a claim that has already be repeatedly refuted. Distance does not cause something to vanish from the bottom up. If it was distance, it would just keep getting smaller and smaller and smaller. If that were the case, it would simply be a matter of our eyes limited resolution that created...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    That isn't the point! The point is that if the Earth is flat, there are THOUSANDS of things in orbit that are not physically possible and that hundreds of thousands of people make their living in an industry that is entirely fraudulent, many tens of thousands of whom would have to be in on the...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    This thread is over 1700 posts long at this point. There have been mutilple examples of visual evidence of the curvature of the Earth. You're in denial and need to wake up. This is the single stupidest thing you've said in this entire thread, David. The ship has to be several miles away from...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    No, it isn't David. Look, I don't tolerate this sort of thing from Calvinist and I see no reason why I should tolerate it from you either. I have made actual arguments, Dave. You have made claims. One claim after another, after another. What few actual arguments exist are almost entirely on...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    We have a whole hell of a lot more than NASA. You think that every satellite in orbit is owned and operated by the United States government? You know better. You knew better when you wrote this. Was this just you being the Devil's advocate, repeating some mindless argument you saw on a flat...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    If the Earth is flat, the orbits of satellites are almost NEVER circular. In fact, they are usually very far away from circular and the satellites would perform impossible feats of speed. Click on the image below...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Lies that flat earthers tell...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Do you mean to suggest that you(flat earthers) believe that satelites (weather, GPS, communication, etc) are being flown in a circle? If so, what are they flying in? Airplane fly through the air, using pressure differencials above and below the wing to create sufficient lift to conteract the...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    On most days, that mirage would not be present and all you'd see in your camera is the empty horizon. All arguments based on what you see in that video are thereby refuted.
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Yet you claim that it is visible evidence that convinces you (flat-earthers) that the Earth is stationary and that the whole universe revolves around it once a day. Long distance shooters do have to adjust for it, it's the explanation as to why that isn't correct. It isn't that the bullet...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    You can see satellite go overhead on every single clear night. They aren't planes. They aren't stars. They're man made satelites that can be predicted to the exact second where they'll be and who can see them. Every single solitary clowdless night. IMPOSSIBLE conspiracy to maintain. Space X...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    The only explanation for GPS I've seen on flat-earth websites is that it works off cell phone towers, with no explanation at all of how GPS works even when you have no cell phone reception at all.
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Why do you keep saying this? There is nothing that we see that contradicts a spherical Earth! There's all kinds of things we see that contradict the flat Earth model. It is not a thought experiment to say that those who live in the southern hemisphere see a south celestial pole that is not...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Saying it doesn't make it so, Dave. Make an argument.
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Is this the beginning of a guilt by association argument? Let's talk about what they do not have in common. People on the flat Earth... 1. would not see the same side of the Moon from every place on Earth. 2. would not see the Moon in the same phase from every place on Earth. 3. would not...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    No, it isn't! But then again, if you throw out the idea of gravity, which, aside from its cause, is one of, if not the most tested and well-understood things in all of science, then almost nothing about how the world works is intuitive. Frankly, I think we've beaten the water flow thing like a...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Dave, Why are the two celestial poles? If the Earth is flat, with the stars rotating above the stationary Earth, how can there be two celestial poles and why can't you see Polaris from Chile?
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