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No one ever told anyone that "they would (i.e. could) never get sick from the vaccine". There is not a significant number of people who do.

Saying it doesn't make it so.

True but not relevant to whether someone should be afraid of the shot nor whether the shot is effective. Actually, the shots are working better than most expected them to work and for about as long as they expected them to work. If you had told anyone at the Phizer corporation in April of 2020...

You left off "...to the point of delusional hysteria."

You're projecting, Marke! I haven't made any such claim at all. Not a syllable of anything similar to that has ever come out of my mouth! Leftist think science has something to do with consensus, it doesn't. Science has NOTHING to do with opinion. Science, real science has to do with fact...

You'd better be praying that such a war doesn't happen. The fact is that even with the idiots in power now, we are still more free in America today than 99.9% of all the human being that have ever lived on planet Earth and there's no guaranteeing which side would win that war. George Washington...

They make no such claim. The fact that you have to overstate the truth every time you open your mouth is proof that you know what you're doing is a lie. The shots have already done a great deal of good and the need for a booster has to do with that positive effect being perpetuated further into...

You are a liar. Of the two of us, I'm the one who has actual scientific studies and real world data to PROVE my case. All you do is ignore data and facts and repeat yourself and lie about how I haven't refuted your fear mongering. That's right! Except that it isn't a claim, its the truth. Just...

No, Marke! That's the opposite of reality! It prevents tons of people from getting covid. In fact very nearly everyone who gets the shot doesn't have tow worry about getting COVID at all and even if they do get it, it will almost certainly be a mild case. That's reality, Marke. The reality is...

I agree but the word pandemic has no meaning at all if COVID 19 doesn't count as one. Perhaps it no longer qualifies as one but it certainly did in the spring and summer of 2020 when it was declared as such. The flu wouldn't normally count as a pandemic because it is an endemic disease. If a...

:lol: I stand corrected!

No you don't! You ignore science and math! You're fixated on "Marxist edicts" to the point of delusion, seeing government boogy-men behind every bush.

You are a liar. There aren't two sides, not really. At best there is scientific studies and data on one side and lies, conspiracy theories and propaganda on the other. You and Fauci are on the same side of that particular spectrum just with different conclusions.

Of course they are! That's the point of having a republic. Not that leaving is the first option. The first option can be either fighting over reach in the courts and / or voting in people who don't over reach. I'd say leaving the state is a distant third option at best.

I don't necessarily "favor the shot". What I favor is people making rational decisions based on reality instead of fear based decision making based on lies, conspiracy theories and propaganda.

You insist in spite of literally millions upon millions of test cases that flat out PROVE you wrong!

You are a veritable fountain of irrelevant nonsense. It's as if you just don't know how to think these things through. I just heard something on the radio today about a judge striking down some mandate that California had in place (they didn't give the details but that's beside the point). The...

It isn't minimizing it to cast it in the light of reality. There is NO significant risk - period. That has not only been told to you but shown to you with real life numbers that YOU are the one ignoring so don't get all sanctimonious with me. You are the one who shows up here lying through your...

I wouldn't have ever tried to suggest that there wasn't a pandemic. My arguments are not about semantics. And I have no problem with anyone who doesn't want to take the vaccine so long as they're doing so for rational reasons that aren't related to fear mongering nonsense and conspiracy...

There are legal remedies for unconstitutional edicts. Whether those remedies will be acted upon is a different question.