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  1. Clete

    Our Moral God

    Contradict yourself much? How can you state in one sentence that "we don't get to make those valuations" and then do exactly that before you get to the period of the very same sentence? Answer the question Lon. Repeating your assertion doesn't count as a valid response. I am not asking you...
  2. Clete

    The love of money is the root of all evil

    If this were actually so you'd engage the debate instead of relying solely on the emotional impact of what some might think are clever one liners. Just as no two truths can contradict each other, there is no conflict between an honest intellect and any matter of faith. God does not ask us to...
  3. Clete

    The love of money is the root of all evil

    Liar! It you who doesn't know what you're talking about.
  4. Clete

    The love of money is the root of all evil

    Utterly complete and total nonsense. Are platitudes and mindless cliches all you know about Christianity?
  5. Clete

    Our Moral God

    So when the Satanist, who actively hates God, feeds his children and is kind to his neighbor is doing so under the influence of God's Spirit? Who teaches you this nonsense and why would anyone believe it?
  6. Clete

    Our Moral God

    Marke, In your last post you quote me as having said, ""Saying God is a man does not justify saying a man is God. " and then said nothing else. I never made any such quote and, as stated, it would not be technically correct because a class is not defined by any single member of that class. So...
  7. Clete

    Our Moral God

    Utter nonsense! If this were so then it would be meaningless to say that God is good. God does not get to pick and choose when to be righteous and when to be arbitrary and an arbitrary (i.e. unjust) action would not become just by virtue of the fact that God is the one who performed it. On the...
  8. Clete

    Our Moral God

    If you think that "either [it] is true, or it is a lie" that God is alsways good AND that we have no ability to make that judgment then on what basis do you say that He is always good?
  9. Clete

    Our Moral God

    Oh yes it absolutely does follow that God is a man! God, THE CREATOR GOD, became a man, lived a sinless life, laid down His life in payment for the sins of the entire human race, past present and future. He then took His life up again after having been in the grave for three days and then, being...
  10. Clete

    Our Moral God

    Was that supposed to be an insult? If you can refute a syllable of what I've said, I'd hear (read) it gladly! (I happened to reread some of the earlier posts in the thread and it makes the think that this wasn't intended as an insult. If so, I don't get it. Either way, I'm not offended by it...
  11. Clete

    Our Moral God

    Wow! You could take Marke to school on how to at least make it look like you've made an argument to the point that it deserves a response! You get to come off my ignore list because of this post, not that you'd care about that. (Don't worry, I doubt very much that it will last long!) So you...
  12. Clete

    Our Moral God

    Why should anyone care what you believe? Here, let's try something different..... I'm going to make an argument in the form of a question and you respond by both answering the question AND explaining how it doesn't present any sort of problem for your position. If A=B and B=C then does A=C...
  13. Clete

    The love of money is the root of all evil

    No, I think you refuse to debate because you ignore almost everything anyone (especially me) says. You do not argue your point at all! You state your position and then simply repeat that position in response to anything anyone says that even partially against it. Restating your position in...
  14. Clete

    The love of money is the root of all evil

    I will never understand what you're doing here. You flat out refuse to debate anything but more than that you don't even discuss stuff with people. It's like you don't know how to read. I give up. I no longer care what you think.
  15. Clete

    The love of money is the root of all evil

    Okay look, you are not paying attention or at least you seem to think that I'm saying more than I am because no one who understood what I'm saying would ever right the above sentence thinking that it either refuted a word I've said or that I would disagree with such an obviously true statement...
  16. Clete

    The love of money is the root of all evil

    I'm here to tell you that you are flatly wrong. What you are describing is accurate for a lot of lower level mostly local politicians. The real players don't need money because they have something better than money, they have power and all they care about it keeping that power and gaining more...
  17. Clete

    The love of money is the root of all evil

    Saying it doesn't make it so. You can tell by their own actions that the love of money is NOT at the root of governmental corruption. It may be for some but the real players are there accumulating power. Money is just the icing on the cake. Further, the very verse you quote tells you that it's...
  18. Clete

    The love of money is the root of all evil

    It should be pointed out that what Jesus was talking about was covetousness. It is not money per se but the desire for that which you have not earned that is the root of all evil. And if you think its money that has driven our politics to wickedness and corruption, you're flatly wrong. It is...
  19. Clete

    Summit Clock Experiment 2.0: Time is Absolute

    It's relevant to the extent that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Such a claim should be met with a healthy dose of scepticism, to say the least. It's not as if hardly anyone has bothered to look at Einstein's work before. I have made no such assertion! It is Mr. Bryant who...
  20. Clete

    Summit Clock Experiment 2.0: Time is Absolute

    There's no maybe about it. If that is what is being argued then Einstein was begging the question. Come on now! It doesn't matter? Really!? Einstein's theories are among the most influential scientific ideas in the history of mankind and you think that whether or not someone has ever noticed...
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