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Saying it doesn't make it so, Derf. The plain reading of the bible, where you simply read the words on the page and take them to mean what they seem to mean lands you with the idea that if you add a spirit to a physical body you get someone who is physically alive and when one gives up their...

Was this intended to imply that Jesus, the one with a physical body, is the one who breathed life into Adam? Was this also intended to imply that the Holy Spirit is no more a real thing that you say our spirits are but was instead the wind that came out of Jesus' lungs? That's my line, Derf...

So, my comments about "spirit" and "breath" was me doing a bit of fishing. I suspected that you were one of those who somehow think that God has lungs with which physically breathed life into Adam. I still cannot figure out where this 'unconscious dormancy' definition of death is coming from but...

Close enough. Good bye.

A lot of "blah blah blah" and exactly nothing that refutes on single syllable of the actual argument.

I'll "paste at you" all I want! One person posts a link and you tell them not to post links but post the relevant information. Then you tell me not to post the relevant information! Information, by the way, that is DIRECTLY relevant and responsive the "argument" that you previously claimed...

A rose, by any other name, is still a rose. Right? Since we are talking about what it means to die, I think this, more or less semantic point, only serves to muddy the water but it is true that He whom we call Jesus was not always a man but became a man at the incarnation. The point is...

Umm, did you mean you have scientific theories? This might be the case for many Christians but I can assure you that it isn't the case with most any young earth creationist on this website. Quite the contrary in fact. Group think is about as far from what we do as it can get. As it turns out...

That's stupidity! By what rational process would you come to the conclusion that rational absurdity as a concept is subjective? That question answers itself. Do you understand the point? This is idiotic, drooling mouthed stupidity! Not even worth responding to directly. Trying reading a...

Which of the two, the rich man or Lazarus, wasn't dead?

No. I grant you no unearned ground. Establish that such a change is warranted by something other than your desire to move it or else it's just fantacy land, pretend theology where anything goes so long as we like it.

Saying it doesn't make it so. Saying it doesn't make it so... Unless you're the bible! Then... Genesis 3:1 Now the serpent was more cunning than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said to the woman, “Has God indeed said, ‘You shall not eat of every tree of the...

Yes, I understood the point when you first mentioned it. Every Greek scholar that has ever translated the bible seems to disagree with your desire to put the comma after 'today'. You're going to have to do more than give me a doctrinal reason to think that you're right and all the bible...

Until that post I responded too, all I ever saw him post was political stuff. What in the world would have gotten him perma-banned? (You don't have to answer that!)

I wasn't asking you who taught you. I thought I made that clear, didn't I? Because the bible seems to clearly teach it by a plain reading of the test. That isn't at all what I was asking. Anyone with half a brain would say that. I'm asking what the basis of this doctrine is. You are THE ONLY...

I would respond to that by saying that there isn't any reason other than your doctrine to move the commas around. If you can make a grammatical argument (i.e. based on the actual text) then I'm all ears but otherwise it's an exercise in question begging. (Did you notice that I left out all the...

Who cares where they were? Maybe one was in Florida and the other in Washington D.C. What does it matter? The point is that there were awake and experiencing things and talking back and forth after they died! That would be hard to do if your definition of death is, "no life in them or any part...

@Derf, What do you do with what Jesus told the criminal who was being crucified next to Him? Luke 23:43 And Jesus said to him, “Assuredly, I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise.” Doesn't that single sentence destroy your whole idea about what death is and how "there's no life in...

Ever thought that the reason you can't use human language to explain it is because it makes no sense? It is truly impossible to fathom the self-contradictory. If it is so ineffable then why do you believe it? That's a real question, RWR. Why do you believe it? It just bugs the crap out of me...

You're arguing against yourself! There isn't one syllable of that gibberish that a protestant couldn't have said against you! Swap out the word "Protestant" with "Catholic" and how would you respond to it? Any response you would make would be equally valid in the mouth of a Protestant. Why...