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So, I was "discussing" this with Chat GPT a few minutes ago and I got a response from it that I think really does an excellent job of communicating where I'm at on this particular point so I thought I'd share the exchange with you guys.... I said to GPT... "Well, I'm not convinced entirely that...

Well, I've thought of that but it doesn't quite work because the normal use of "apostasia" had a negative conotation to it and implied a rebelious sort of "falling away".

The Septuagint (LXX) is a Greek translation of the Old Testament. It was already centuries old at the time of Christ and so, of course, no writings of Paul's in there. That isn't the point. The point is simply that it uses the word "apostasia" in a few places, none of which mean "departure"...

I don't understand. Are you saying the GPT denies that the word "apostasia" is used in II Thes. 2:3? Surely not. Please explain. Also, who said anything about "religious context"?

Is the Septuagint new? I mean there really isn't much in the way of ancient evidence of the word being used as "departure". If Paul wanted to highlight the idea of a literal taking up into heaven, "analēmpsis" would have been a better choice of words. It's the word used for Jesus’ ascension and...

I happen to have just listened to a bible study done by Bob Enyart this last Sunday about the Rapture where he made the argument that apostasia should be translated "departure" and I am in the long and well established habit of taking Bob's word for it when it comes to such things and for that...

Oldest is 25, the other 22! Tara has two kids. They're both under 2 years old but they're already talking about wanting to home school. The funny thing is that she totally HATED doing home school as a kid.

My daughter is still a few years away from home schooling her kids but she's already starting to look into her options so this is super helpful! Thanks Poly!

Make a cogent argument or I'll simply put you on ignore and be done with you.

On the contrary! I can defend what I say with legitimate arguments. I'm simply tired of those arguments being ignored. When you begin to be responsive, we can get as detailed as you like. Until then, I'm going to treat you with the respect you've earned and not one ounce more than that.

I might consider doing so but not before you respond with some substance to what I've already said. This is not your personal website and I don't have to allow you to endlessly waste my time.

Yes, you got it exactly. I have this instinct, a near compulsion, to press people away from discussing matters of fact in terms of their personal opinion, especially when it comes to doctrinal matters that touch on the very character of God Himself. Ignore the words that degrade right and wrong...

I might consider doing so but not before you respond with some substance to what I've already said. This is not your personal website and I don't have to allow you to endlessly waste my time.

Calling Islam the fourth beast of Daniel doesn't make it so. That's the thing you need to let soak into your mind.

Perhaps it is, but no one here, least of all me, cares what your personal opinions are. To what degree someone is interested in your personal opinions, you might have a conversation about them but it would be fruitless in regard to any search for the truth of the matter. The simple fact is that...

I do not care what justice is "to you"! It is not a matter of opinion. You just now, in the sentence IMMEDIATELY prior to this, said that your opinion had something to do with the bible. Which parts of the bible do you read and which do you ignore? Maybe read the following.... Deuteronomy...

Good bye.

Delusional Which sets up and defines the parameters of the three branches of that actual government. No, that is not what it means. Do you REALLY believe what you've just said here? You're mind is hopelessly muddled. If we are the government, as you just got through claiming, then who needs...

Literal delusional stupidity! There is no hope for you. You've turned off your reasoning faculty.

Liar. Every single sentence of that entire post was an intentional lie!