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:ROFLMAO: Well, it's good to see that you still belong on my ignore list!! :ROFLMAO: The point was to show that @RobM_456 was employing a caricatured version of Jesus.

This IS the value that the whole concept of money is predicated on. Otherwise is would not work at all. But cannot be expressed in any terms that are divorced from productive effort. But no production can be created apart from effort. And any value created apart from productive effort is an...

This IS the value that the whole concept of money is predicated on. Otherwise is would not work at all. But cannot be expressed in any terms that are divorced from productive effort. But no production can be created apart from effort. And any value created apart from productive effort is an...

That's your doctrine, not God's word. Yes, actually they do. They state it explicitly! It is only your doctrine that says otherwise. I believe His Word. God doesn’t contradict His Word. Too bad if you don't believe that.

Luke 19:27 But bring here those enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, and slay them before me.’ ”

Precisely my point! This counts as a lie, Frodo. I've shown you otherwise. The fact that you ignore it, doesn't make the proof go away. You've been shown and you have seen the proof that what "God told you" is false precisely because of what you just said, God does not contradict His Word...

Yes, necessarily. Indeed, by definition. There is no economic value apart from production. So how do you say one sentence and then openly contradict it in the next sentence and then think that the contradiction supports the first sentence? In an honest economy, value is exchanged for value by...

Not overtly, you didn't. I didn't say it was. Money is what represents that value, it is what takes the place of something else of equal value (to both the purchaser and seller). That's why gold works as real money and so long as everyone using it agrees, that's why fiat currencies work for as...

I don't get to decide what the word means and neither do you. The thought in your head that is contrary to that is leftist in origin. Words mean what they mean.

I just did. Try looking up a guilt by association fallacy. Try looking up the poisoning the well fallacy. Try just finding any book at all on how sound reason works and read it.

You're argument commits a stolen concept fallacy. Any mention of "exchange" or "value" implies "effort involved in obtaining it". I think you know that I'm not capable of making such an error. If you really think I am, you need to rethink it. I flatly am not making that error.

You don't have to but it would prevent you from wasting time responding to things that you don't yet understand but which are fully laid out in the body of my posts. You can just keep on repeating this all you like, it is NOT true! Subjective does not mean arbitrary. Nor is it even relevant to...

You do not have any idea what the hell you're even talking about. What are you even doing here?

You wouldn't know a sound argument if one walked up and introduced itself to you.

Even when God himself tells you to the contrary?

And they're all big government leftists!

Irrelevant! As I've clearly argued without response.

The person spending it can and to a large degree so can the person accepting the money. People have a sense of what something is worth. That's the reason the saying "If it's too good to be true, it probably is." works. If someone is willing to spend far more for something than it's worth then...

You’re making a distinction between what money is and how people obtain it, but that’s not a meaningful distinction in the context of this discussion. If real money had nothing to do with how it is obtained then stolen money would be just as valid as any other. You are attempting, though...

I mean, could you please just go pick up at least one history book?! As if Lenin, Stalin and Hitler weren't "the left"! They are the very definition of what it means to be on the left! The left has murdered somewhere between 100 - 250 million non-combatant people in just the last 100 years...