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But in boarding the vessel, did they engage in idolatry, in any way, shape or form? The ship was literally dedicated to idols /"other gods".

But it's not telling the priesthood to stop. It's talking to individuals. I'm suggesting the opposite, see below. Fair. Perhaps. But also it could be that that "promise" can just refer to the written promise in the Old Testament, in which case it's not necessarily indicative of future, and...

You could argue it. You're a troll.

No, I mean the most serious sins. I don't know if he's asking about the most serious sins or not, his view of sin is not Catholic.

Grave matter is the only thing Catholics need to worry about besides Romans 14 stuff. It might be and probably is offensive to other Catholics, but it's not grave matter, so it doesn't automatically break communion.

Hoping? No.

So you're playing games.

So did they sin, even lightly, in boarding that ship, do you think? Cool thread. :thumb:

Glad we can agree on something. Sure, again agreed. See below, 1st Corinthians 11:26 OK. I think the Mass obligation has fulfilled the Sabbath obligation, but it's not the point of the thread so I won't contend. I notice that's in the future tense. Do you think this epistle is written to...

The dead cell phone doesn't change but a cadaver putrefies. The former is similar to a rock in this way, quite unlike a dead human, who /which will continue to rot and degrade and disintegrate. The dead human will get worse and worse and worse, in a moral sense. It's not just like, one has...

Why? Is that something you'd like to do?

No I'm not. I don't care what that guy thinks.

Confer: https://theologyonline.com/threads/idolatry.59717/

? What is your point?

If we're not going to incarcerate young Black men for carrying guns all the time (and we don't), then we shouldn't all the time incarcerate young white men for carrying them either.

That ... does not sound right. Did his defense attorney have a fool for a client or something?

What was a rock designed to do? To not change. That's why even today modern builders of skyscrapers want to build their buildings on (bed)rock. I mean your phone with a dead battery sits incorruptible, not like a cadaver which rots and putrefies. So do you think there's a parallel to this in...

Yes. Mine is more of a policy position, and yours is personal advice to individuals. Both are needed I think. So long as we have government schools, we have democratic (small D) control over them and should exercise it, and that means policy positions, political plans (aka ideology).

Do you believe in Jesus?

The strategy's never going to work, it's frankly stupid to try. It's only sharpening our division. Keep party politics out of schools. Teach American politics----not Democratic or Republican or Green or Libertarian political ideology----like we used to do. We'll sort out the party stuff...