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It's the same thing. The same theory behind redshift distance correlation is the same theory that suggests that everything is moving a way from us. There's way too much redshift than can be accounted for by the bodies physical motion through space. It's all predicated on the idea that space...

Nothing that we know of today. Who knows what we'll figure out tomorrow.

The argument is based on redshift, the cause of which is what is being questioned here. If redshift is a measure of distance, which I don't believe it is, or if there was evidence that the universe has finite edges then I'd agree that there is some point that could be meaningfully called the...

What is infinity divided by two? Another way to think of it.... What is the center point of the surface of a sphere? Again, there is no evidence that the universe has a center. We are as much at the center of the universe as is anything else is so far as it make sense to speak about the...

There is no evidence that the universe has a center but your point is still valid in that modern cosmology does make the assumption that the gravitational constant, as well as all the other constants, are the same everywhere as there are here. Arp, the guy who made the observations in that...

I've never made any attempt to get anyone banned. You're either stupid or a liar or both. It's the one that explicitly states that such is the case - verbatim - which you could have found in ten seconds with a simple search of the phrase, "by revelation", which I had in quotes. It's the very...

The ONLY Biblical answer to The Age of Accountability Anyone with an ounce of common sense knows that babies are innocent. The ONLY reason anyone would ever postulate that God sends babies to Hell or even suggests that such a possibility exists at all is to imply that God is unjust. No, they...

Very likely that they did not understand the difference. Not at all, no. First, light goes really really fast in comparison to the physical motion of these bodies and so actual Doppler effect is quite tiny in comparison to the shift supposedly caused by the stretching of the light due to...

Yeah, as if I wrote the bible. You should understand that such emotionally based arguments will have no effect on me other than to convince me that you have nothing of substance to respond with. I Corinthians 4:15 For though you might have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet you do not...

This is frankly a ridiculous objection. He isn't saying we do not directly observe the stars. He's saying that we do not directly measure the movement of very distant celestial objects, which is 100% the truth. Except for the stars that are close enough to do a parallax measurement, the movement...

And yet, when she won the first time, it was a triumph and such a great thing that the people of Chicago had elected a black lesbian! When they win, racism and sexism is a good thing. When they lose it's Nazism or something worse.

I'm not "offended" in the way you seem to be meaning it here. I don't even remember your last post so maybe just move on and stop worrying about my state of mind. When have I ever suggested that God sends babies to Hell? I'm pretty sure I've stated the reverse - repeatedly. Anyone who would try...

That's my favorite! They always intentionally "misunderstand" the question.

A question that Hoping PROBABLY will not answer..... What is the difference between the Kingdom of Israel and the Body of Christ?

The above highlighted sentence is all the evidence you need in order to know that Hoping does NOT care what the bible teaches. He cannot ever be convinced by ANY argument, no matter how convincing the argument should be. Hoping isn't interested in being convinced. He doesn't care whether his...

I don't see how it was any more or less clear than all the other posts I've made. It feels to me like I'm just repeating myself. Be that as it may.... I wonder how long we will go before you figure out that you will never get me to take a side. I'm telling you that it DOES NOT MATTER! The issue...

I feel like a broken record. WHATEVER IT IS that someone gets from God, it will be justice, whether you agree with it or not, Gary! YOU DO NOT GET A VOTE! It isn't up to you. No one, least of all God, cares at all about your personal opinions about what is and is not just! It is presumption to...

How can you make any sense of this at all? Are you some sort of universalist or something? You're a liar. Not a chance that even you believed this when you wrote it! Romans 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the...

LOL!!! I genuinely find it amusing to the point of out loud laughter to see someone so twisted into knots by their own inability to think clearly! You see contradiction where there is none - which is intended, by the way. Gary, whether you admit it or not, the above quoted post is proof...

Outstanding point!