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    The Plot by Bob Enyart

    I have a great idea! Whenever someone interesting comes along who is open to the ideas that we are trying to disseminate with this website, let's embarrass them like crazy the first time they say the wrong thing, no matter how minor the offense it creates! That way they'll leave and never come...
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    The Plot by Bob Enyart

    Great
  3. Clete

    The Plot by Bob Enyart

    So just how long was this temp ban for? He hasn't posted in nearly a week.
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    The Plot by Bob Enyart

    :confused:
  5. Clete

    The Plot by Bob Enyart

    So, I'm worried that @Unsettler has disappeared on us. Why is it that you can't get rid of the mindless time wasters but the worthwhile ones hardly ever stick around?
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    The Plot by Bob Enyart

    As is the case with a great many of your posts, as well as the lion's share of every distinctively Catholic doctrine that exists, every point can be responded to with one single sentence.... Saying it doesn't make it so! If you care to make an actual argument, I'd be glad to read it. As for...
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    The Plot by Bob Enyart

    @Unsettler, So, I was reading back through some of this thread this morning and realized that I sort of failed to make the point in the above quoted post. I made it, just not as well as I could have. I was way too rushed at the time. What is said there about those who believe that you can lose...
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    Is death just another life?

    Yes. Paradise is not a technical term. It's an adjective. So what? You're making it more complicated than it needs to be. The paradise Jesus spoke of is/was the place of the righteous dead. It is elsewhere refered to as Abraham's bosom. The implication being that it is where Abraham was...
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    The Plot by Bob Enyart

    Not in the way you mean it. To be SUPER clear here... There is NOT a single solitary thing you can do to escape the Holy Spirit's seal nor do you have the power to pluck anyone, including yourself, from God's hand. You didn't earn your salvation and you cannot give it back this side of staring...
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    The Plot by Bob Enyart

    Yes! That is, he will be delivered safely to the Day of Redemption. What happens after that point is an open question. It depends on the individual. What we know for certain is that no one will enter Heaven against their own will. By the way, I knew what the term meant, I just couldn't bring...
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    The Plot by Bob Enyart

    [Moderator edit: profanity removed; please read the rules.]?
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    The Plot by Bob Enyart

    The debate about whether one can lose their salvation is centuries old. If you were undecided about the issue and wanted to educate yourself on it in an attempt to figure out who is right and who is wrong, what you'd likely do, as a first step, is go to get a book or two or three on the subject...
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    The Plot by Bob Enyart

    Umm... what? 😵‍💫
  14. Clete

    Is death just another life?

    Paradise can refer to several things. Eden was paradise and the New Earth will also be paradise. Abraham's bosom is paradise as is God's Heaven. The fact that these various places are referred to as, or can be rightly describes as a paradise, is not even evidence, never mind proof, that they're...
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    Is death just another life?

    So we're almost, if not entirely, in agreement except that you seem to put more emphasis on the "up" or "down" -ward direction than I do. I agree that Abraham's bosom is not Heaven but neither is it Hell. The only thing the two have in common is that it's dead people who go/went there. One is...
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    Is death just another life?

    Yes, yes, yes. I am fully aware of the bible's use of the word "Hell". I'm also aware of how every person teaching from those passages has to explain that the verse doesn't mean "Hell" as virtually all modern English speaking people think of when we hear the word.
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    Search the scriptures

    Are trying to go on my ignore list?
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    The Plot by Bob Enyart

    I mean that if you attempt to establish the idea that you can lose your salvation, you will not be able to do so without using passages that were written to/about Israel. Put another way, you would be forced to NOT rightly divide the word of truth. That's sort of close to being the primary...
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    Is death just another life?

    Jesus DID NOT go to Hell, JR. He was dead and He went to the same place that all the other righteous dead went to. Calling that Hell is a great way to be confusing and to communicate something other than what is actually meant. This passage simply teaches that everyone dies. What? Abraham's...
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    Search the scriptures

    What are you even talking about? I didn't accuse you of anything. I simply responded to what you wrote! You're an idiot.
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