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:nono: Again, you both are woefully ignorant of what scripture actually claims. "Men moved along by the Spirit..." etc. You guys are simply excusing your willful ignorance and speaking completely from ignorance. Again, you are both responsible for what is true, whether you like it or...

Er, no. Please think. Read what you are completely ignorant of, and think again. This is just mindless assertion on your part.

You are continually under the delusion that I haven't read a significant portion.... :Plain: Its junk, PJ. Sorry, you have to be intelligently challenged to buy this rubbish. Mean? No, I'm trying to wake you and Caino up. I'm not here to banter with you over details. :nono...

:nono: Your theory amounts to Paul being a bad guy, a purposeful liar, and a crook. Sure, the UB thinks that, but don't you be a dupe for idiots. Paul died for what he believed. If he didn't believe it, the charade would have been over. Joseph Smith died with a gun in his hand.

Let's look... :think: [COLOR=#222222] [COLOR=#000080]Er, it isn't meaningful, wise, of any value or any less if not more childish than the BoM. This may be a shock to you, but it doesn't read at all as if it were divine. It reads like you could have written it. Thus, it may make a lot of...

I kind of expect this sort of thing from those who have never read the NT, certainly not retaining any of it. I don't care that you two want to tear down the Apostle. So did Joseph Smith. So did Hayes. Cults do what cults do simply and predictably because they don't want to be...

Gal 1:7 not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. Gal 1:8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. Gal 1:9 As we have said before, so...

2Ti 4:1 I charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by his appearing and his kingdom: 2Ti 4:2 preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching. 2Ti 4:3 For the...

It doesn't matter. Jesus is the Way, Truth, Life. Your eclectic bent is 'bent.' You will not, cannot receive that, but you can understand 'no.' Jacob was wholly adequate with the one word negation. I realize that's a disappointment to you, but the majority of us here on TOL actually...

"I'm god, you're god, we don't need an actual and separate god..." :sigh: It all makes sense from a rejection of Biblical truth/Christianity standpoint. What doesn't make sense is why this asherah pole is on TOL. Do you desire the interruptions and rejections by Christians? Is...

You are kidding yourself and missing the forest for the trees. When the Pharisees told Jesus they were not blind, he told them then that they owned their denial and therefore were no longer excused. Essentially, you are saying the same thing: "I'm not blind." Sorry bud, you don't know...

"Only for those who have ears to hear" When/if God gets a hold of you, instead of you chasing every wind of doctrine/error, it will make all the difference. He is Lord, we are creatures and must bow. There is no apology for what just is. He is Lord by nature. We are created. It is more...

It was only for those who had ears to hear... Jesus didn't force it though every knee must bow. He is Lord by nature and we creatures, it has to happen exactly as given. You really have never conceived the NT or you'd understand the necessity of a closed canon. Joseph Smith etc. was...

I've looked at your wanna-be's already, Zeke. You are following amateurs/charlatans/hacks. You need to wake up. I've debunked a # of them in service to you. Listen or not. I simply provide drive-by's in hope that "this time" you'll listen. I'm right, you are both wrong. Not because...

:nono: and don't have to. Pay attention the gospel words (or don't) "But THESE are written that you may have life..." Which means closed canon both exegetically and by other scriptures given. The NT is a closed canon. A Mormon or exmormon will have a terrible time with that. :nono...

Er, no. 1) the Spirit, Himself (not me or you) indwells a believer and 2) the biblical message is so consistent that ANY extra revelation is both extemporaneous and contradictory. As an exMormon, that will be a foreign idea to you, but it is essential that you understand where your faith...

To keep from derailing another thread. No serious scholar or academic questions the historicity of the person of Jesus Christ. The video is wrong, there are about 10 other sources that mention the Lord Jesus Christ. Even the Quran speaks of His actual existence. Zeke, you are paying...

"I've been a Democrat all my life," Trump says as he drops out of the presidential race, "[Did] you people really believe me?" *Note: There is an obviousness to the article on a few levels...

Except they got it exactly backwards, here is what the correction is today: Embarrassingly, this study has been cited by liberals who will now have to live with themselves and in this case, the three-fingers pointing back exponentially are all liberal so the fourth finger has to become an...

A little long with scriptures, but they are how we live as Spiritually indwelled beings. I've given commentary to tie them together for my reasoning and defense of our Christian view and understanding. I pray this post and the thread serve well for difficult days of needed discussion and...