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Which is what I said, that you, run to obscure ideas you have to hunt and peck for, to support YOUR theology. I'm not sure as a layman, you have much else for tools, but it isn't the best avenue for building a strong and rigorous theology.

This has been POTD so already posted twice, but I believe the 'primer' tenor of it is important for this thread most specifically (as it also address the above desire on how to discuss such with unbelievers and believers and bridges discussion): I know you were given recognition, but I can't...

Er, it had "Keypurr's" name on it. He does say some things about you that are incorrect, however it was a post to him. He loves to hear his own opinions and give attaboys to those who 'think' somewhat akin to how he thinks himself. He is a confused man and dishonest enough to ignore the...

You've said a number of provably incorrect things here. Are you honest enough, and man enough to take the corrections? Ones I can prove? 🤔

Part 2: Genesis 18 Jesus appears to Abraham "Going to go down and see..." is Rhetorical for most Christians -Enyart Genesis 3 Rhetorical for most Christians -Enyart Bob Enyart "those are both Wrong." Implications? God was completely clueless where Adam and Eve were. He didn't know if...

I'd never have suspected B.Enyart's position on this particular. While I appreciate 'consistency' and Enyart is right, it does cause a downfall of Open Theism in most of our Non-Open-Theist minds, it hugely constricts God of His 'current' knowledge, let alone foreknowledge. I've had this...

I've covered most of this. It literally tries to reestablish what isn't conceded AND continues, in every example: to be very stuck in finite/physical thinking. I've posted over and over, the Open Mindset is literally stuck in 'finiteness.' Going back to physics (physical): Einstein...

I read what you wrote AND the scripture you posted. It said the opposite of what you said. Not when the bible is about all I read. Sorry. Open View tries very hard to pin ideas. Sometimes ideas do NOT derive from the intended accusation. These did not. Sorry. Open Theist have Greeks on...

A few jotted thoughts: Interesting, Will Duffy doesn't believe time even exists? Einstein believed that too, but doesn't that then, destroy tenents of Open Theism? I do agree with Jeremy Howard that there are indicative (I call them pedantic) passages, and narrative story that are more...

My comment was about verse addresses at that point. I was trying to remember. This computer cannot carry my bible software. Timing is difficult: I used to be able to use TOL to double-check and even link verses. Is it possible for this software to do something similar? At any rate, It...

It is true that one is different than the other, but the one is an aspect/derivative of the other. The same reason Einstein and most physicist did/do: As soon as you are 'outside' the universe, there is 'no' outside the universe as far as the extent of physics. Einstein published the theory...

A 'year' is a mark in seasons. Without a sun moon and stars there is nothing to mark. What we are talking about is 'movement.' If you followed the Cube connected within the cube from physics as analogy to the 4th Dimension, it is something Christians already recognize: That all physical...

Let's go back to the block universe: It states that the universe does not move and that only things move 'in' it. We know God is the all but physicists are focused mostly on the physical universe. However, their reasoning is sound: Time is no different than 'length.' Both are constructs...

Define 'reality.' It is a necessity that 'math' is created because it only deals with physical properties and 'created' numerals. If by 'reality' you mean 'the physical universe' then great. If you mean aspects of God Himself, you'd have to show that. Again, if by 'reality' you mean the...

Ezekiel's image is talking about His attributes, so not THAT hard to grasp what Ezekiel is saying. That said, Mixed_Brown wasn't being genuine, just rattling off a Unitarian commercial. His assessment couldn't possibly be true because I'd read the answers in thread. Judge Rightly had done...

I've heard them called 'Muslim' Christians or "Christians from Muslim countries." Perhaps "Arab Christians?" You've got me perplexed on how best they have been or can be identified now 🤔

I suppose they should be called Iranian Christians, etc, rather than pooling them together as a race, but I'm talking about all Christians converted and living among Muslims.

I don't think Biden watched this (or the second, name of the shooter suggests he's Muslim :Z ) :( We talked about this before: Democrats vetted 2 million Muslims, with good statistics and information, that 1/3 of all shootings in the U.S. are committed by this very small population...

Some of us could work on it some more, welcome to TOL Well, if someone doesn't tick you off, you can be a pretty nice guy when you want to be. I'll keep working on it.

Its a good verse for thought and thanks. If I'm to change to any Open Theist position, it does have to be upon scriptural basis. 2 Thessalonians 1:9 says literally 'prosopone' (face) of the Lord. It does indeed present a dilemma to omnipresence unless 1) men are annihilated in the lake of...