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I do not deny sticking stubbornly to the policy of allowing the bible to mean what it says and conforming my doctrinal beliefs around that. The doctrine that insists that God did not divorce Israel. That's obviously the case. The point is, why? What is it that is motivating that difference of...

They were the mosquitos that transmitted the pagan Greek mind virus into the Christian population.

I don't even understand what your question is, Lon. It seems to me that you need to redefine "God's will" away from whatever it currently is in your mind to "what God desires", which is what it actually means. Once you've done that answering the following questions becomes easy and...

Not sure you used the right word there. "Decimated" means "reduced by 1/10th", not obliterated out of existence. Also, there's good reason to believe that a remnant of those tribes have survived.

I don't think you're correct on the point about any Calvinist insisting on "one will, nothing else". One of the first places I can recall being exposed to this "perfect" vs. "permissive" will as it was termed at the time was in a Sunday school class where the teacher was the hardest core...

It seems at this point that you are just being stubborn, preferring to believe your doctrine over the text of scripture. God takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked and yet they die all the time and He Himself has killed a great many of them and so your argument about God hating divorce...

So, I'm all the time getting the two backwards. The two terms are not sufficiently descriptive to begin with and I can't seem to see past the fact that every event that falls into one of them is just a subset of the other. At any rate, I keep thinking of them backwards and so I look it up and...

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Such artful rationalization one hardly ever sees! In short, Idolater takes this.... "they received the word with all readiness, and searched the Scriptures daily to find out whether these things were so." (Acts 17:11b) ...and managed to turn it into... "they received the word with all...

Most all theologians have been heavily influenced by Augustin's theology proper. Garbage in, garbage out. Think it through for yourself, Bladerunner. You're an intelligent guy! You don't need to follow the "theologians". Read God's word and think it through for yourself. Examine what your...

It might be odd if God Himself didn't explicitly state the He had given Israel a certificate of divorce. How is that not convincing to you. I truly do not get it!

It's meaningless double talk, Lon! Things happen AGAINST God's will all the time. We call it "sin". Of course they loved God. They don't make sense to anyone, Lon. It's irrational drivel. The degree to which you think it makes sense is the degree to which you haven't thought it through and/or...

I showed no such thing. You have a faulty idea about divorce that the scripture doesn't support. It does not have to be permanent. Maybe it would be a good practice for you to not quote single verses by themselves because doing so often can be used to say something contrary to what is actually...

I don't separate the two. I'm not sure I understand where the question is coming from. I'm going to make a guess and speak to that guess.... The only way I can see where there would be a conflict is in a misunderstanding of II Timothy 2:13 2 Timothy 2:13 If we are faithless, He remains...

Don't feel obligated to respond to any point where responding doesn't move the discussion forward. If something critical gets skipped then it'll come up again. The law does not prohibit remarriage of a divorced wife so long as she hasn't taken another husband. The "her" in that passage is...

I was talking about the false dichotomy of God's "Preceptive Will" vs. His "Decretive Will". There is no such dichotomy and the whole idea is irrational to begin with. If you think about it, at best, the latter is a subset of the former and so it turns God into this schizophrenic, forked...

Nope! God wants people to love Him. He is 100% incapable of forcing someone to love Him. No matter how badly He wants it, no matter what He does or doesn't do, if someone refuses to do it, there is nothing He can do to make it not so. There is no such dichotomy. People resist His will all the...

It isn't hard to figure out, it's impossible but not because it has to do with God but because it is inherently irrational to the point of insanity and it has nothing to do with God at all, much less any sort of wisdom. It is pagan Greek philosophy masquerading as Christianity.

There is NO SUCH THING as God's "Preceptive Will" vs. His "Decretive Will". That is purely and only a doctrinal construct designed to preserve the doctrines of exhaustive divine foreknowledge, and absolute sovereignty (i.e. total control of every event) and immutability. In short it is an ad...

The problem is that you don't get to turn God's words into some nebulous allegory just because you want to. How is it not superior to take God to mean what He seems to mean by the plain reading unless you have some really clearly definable reason that would require you to do otherwise? In other...