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Nothing of value is ever free. Someone, somewhere, somehow, always pays the bill.

@Derf, Your response avoids the heart of the issue. Perhaps not intentionally, but you’re not dealing with the actual argument. I’m distinguishing physical death from spiritual death, and showing that Scripture does too. You’re treating that as if it’s just an interpretive quirk or some sort of...

How is that your point and how would I have proven it? You just said that you weren't even sure that the premise which states that He doesn't preordain every tragedy is true! Derf, this has more than a toe or two over the line into blasphemy! I can't even believe you wrote that! You are...

I finally got Grok to conceded!!! I can't believe it!....

Even the suggestion that it might not be false is blasphemy, Derf! God does not preordain every tragedy as part of some divine plan. What would ever cause you to question such a thing? Jeremiah 19:5 They have also built the high places of Baal, to burn their sons with fire for burnt offerings...

Where is there a free market in play here? The President has the authority to make U.S. policy and if the E.U. has a policy that harms America by effectively causing Americans who buy these drugs to subsidize their socialized medicine, then he has the authority to respond to that by putting...

You understand that I was not questioning the righteousness of God. On the contrary, God's righteousness was the premise of my argument. If God is righteous, which He is, then the doctrine that teaches that "He preordained every tragedy as part of some divine plan" is false. Get it?

I've not detected any such bias. The bias seems to be whatever the bot thinks the user want to hear but even that bias isn't hard coded because I've had Copilot "debate" Chat GPT (Copilot basically is Chat GPT) a few times and it doesn't take long for them to come to agreement on what has always...

Aside from things like abortion pills, what sort of drugs shouldn't exist?

Exactly! Their argument is flawed from several directions. Our position isn't "sola scriptura" to being with, but more than that, we do not appose tradition either. Tradition is fine so long as the tradition doesn't contradict either divinely inspired scripture or the conclusions of sound...

Quite so!

The question makes no sense. Wisdom is righteousness. You must have misread my point. The "former" and "later" refer to what is said in the previous sentence... "It’s one thing to say God redeems suffering but it’s quite another to claim He preordained every tragedy as part of some divine...

I would never attempt to prove sola scriptura from scripture as it is neither biblical nor do I accept it as valid. As for "Eat my flesh plus unbiblical writing" and "Upon this rock", engaging those directly might make for an interesting intellectual exercise but the most straightforward...

I noticed a long time ago that Chat GPT definitely tries to tell you what it thinks you want to hear. It constantly compliments your reasoning, even when it's intentional stupidity (I've tested it). It is good at being thorough though. It would have taken me hours - maybe forever - to think of...

I've been interacting with Chat GPT to try and formulate a list of doctrines that would comprise what I've been calling "Biblical Christianity". When I use that phrase, the idea in my mind is that version of Christianity that is formulated entirely through the application of the plain/contextual...

Catholicism vs. Biblical Christianity

Consider the following basic Christian concepts... God exists. God is personal, living, moral, and rational. God created the world and created mankind in His image. There is objective right and wrong, rooted in God's nature. Humans have free will and moral responsibility. Sin is a personal...

No you weren't. Post #3.

Consider the following basic Christian concepts... God exists. God is personal, living, moral, and rational. God created the world and created mankind in His image. There is objective right and wrong, rooted in God's nature. Humans have free will and moral responsibility. Sin is a personal...

Yes! In "The Problem with Pain" I think, yes? I've heard a lot about that book but haven't fully read it yet, but I intend to do so soon. Lewis is exactly right to highlight that God's answer to suffering is not merely endurance, but transformation. The cross is the ultimate example. It isn't...